I know there is a manufacturer provided integration between Wiz bulbs and smartthings, but does that include their motion sensor? (Note that this is a Wi-Fi device, not Zigbee, and does not work with the Hue app. So not the same as the hue motion sensor. Same company, different model line.)
Also if anyone can confirm that these work to trigger Alexa routines, that would be good to know too.
Hi, I have spent the last few hours playing around with this having bought 2 motion sensors. Firstly you cannot link the motion sensor to anything other than wiz bulbs that are in the same virtual room on the wiz app. You also must have a wiz bulb to be able to set up the motion sensor at all.
I do not see a way of doing this direct to smartthings hub. I am going to explore IFTTT now to see if that offers a solution. If you find one in the mean time please post it here.
The integration between Wiz bulbs and motion sensor works fine, however, it is seriously limited:
Minimum 5 minutes off delay timer for lights (why? I want them to turn off after 30s of no motion detection)
No possibility to set the activation according to day/night, not even time of day! (I have a long corridor with a sensor and I don’t want the lights to turn on during the day, only night on detection)
Wiz bulbs integrate nicely in Smartthings but not the sensor. Did someone manage to make the lights turn on/off based on day/night in combination with sensor inside of Smartthings?
Wiz will release matter-compatible models, but older models will not get Matter support.
This is in contrast to the Hue line, where most older models will work with matter because the compatibility is in the Hue bridge.
Also, the new Wiz models all look to be Wi-Fi, not thread. (Matter works with either.)
So there’s a difference between a brand supporting matter and an individual device supporting it. As always, the first rule of home automation applies: “the model number matters.“
Thanks for the link. So I bought a bunch of lightbulbs and 3-4 sensors last week, cause they work great and response time is so much better than any WiFi bulbs I use from SmartLife/Tuya. So, did read their statement in the link you posted, as I hope I read it right, all bulbs bought after Seb. 2021 should be upgradable, all though the boxes do not state that it supports Matter, but a firmware should make them compatible. One can hope it. both lights and sensors.
Unfortunately, no. All models released after Sept 2021 should work with Matter, but older models, regardless of the day you bought them on, might not work with Matter. They aren’t recalling any of the older models and they can stay in the supply chain pipeline for months or even years.
That’s what “new products” means in the following from the release:
The daily, intuitive smart lighting brand is already anticipating the required changes to their new products to ensure they are ready to undergo a software upgrade as soon as Matter is launched by the Connectivity Standards Alliance.
So, there is a 50/50 chance of all the bulbs I bought are Go or NoGo on being upgradable…just checked some of the packs they came in, all of them are made in 2021…Sucks a bit…thinking of might returning them now. Not the bulbs cause i use them via ST, but the motion sensor does not appear in ST. Wanted especially the motion sensor to be able to work with Matter and thereby appear also in ST.
Any chance that it will be possible for a time of day based control for existing sensors? I mean so it wouldn’t turn ON the lights in a middle of a day
The wiz sensor that I use, does not have the Lux sensor build in, so i was not able to make it work only to turn on/off the lights during twilight/Evening/night. Instead I use my aqara sensors via google routine, to have them enable lights when Lux is around 8 and below. Works great. To bad the Wiz sensors does not have the Lux build into them.Use the Wiz lights via wiz app and google home, and aqara sensors via smartthings and google home and just made the routine.
Thanks for the tip! Didn’t know aqara sensor could be integrated in ST!
Regarding the Wiz motion sensor, it doesn’t really need to have a lux sensor, since the whole system is server based it should be no brainer to set the location and then sunrise/sunset at location is determined and used for disabling the sensor during the day, no extra cost, Wiz could do it if they want to.
I found a possible “hack” that I have to test when I get home. You can set the routing in ST for the controlled lightning as:
IF between sunrise and sunset and the light is ON (as a result of motion) turn OFF the light. Trying to think about how it might work in practice. Maybe just a blink or a few secs of lights ON after activating sensor until the routine turns it OFF … would be interesting try
Totally with you on Wiz implementing the sunrise/sunset at location, in that way you would be able to use the Wiz sensor.
But after start using the aqara motion sensor via Smartthings(just need to get the handler on github) and cause they are pretty affordable and versatile in placing them, I have them all over my place. And now Wiz with their Gen 2 bulbs will support Matter as well, think i will change all my bulbs out with Wiz gen2 ones. You just need to check that they are gen2 though…bought like 6 of them and they are gen1, meaning only WiFi. Just to let you know, most of the aqara products like also the door/window sensor can be paired with ST hub v2 and v3, you just need to pick up the handlers. Wend via SmartThings and downL all handlers, so when getting aqara products and merging them into ST, you just pick up the right handler, thanks to all the Big brains in the community for creating the handlers. Everything works, battery level, Lux, delay and so on. Just ordered four door/windows sensors. I have the Aqara M1S hub but not using it, but hopping to, as they also have acknowledged they will be jumping on the Matter band wagon, as Wiz.
I will definitely try with Aqara motion sensor, I see they’re priced roughly the same as Wiz ones, atleast here in Norway. Will also check the other sensors from Aqara as well. I see they also have temperature/humidity sensors … I can consider everything as long I can integrate it on ST, one hub policy with me
I bought all of my Wiz lightning in October/November last year so I’m affraid it’s all Gen1 … hopefully Wiz will still provide some improvements for us, I don’t intend to replace it to get Matter.
Regarding the Wiz, there is one more thing that annoys me hell of a lot, the infamous WizClick. The thing is that sometimes you don’t really want to bother turning the lights ON/OFF on the app, you just do it on the switch and then if the switch is OFF you can’t turn it ON in app, like when lying in the bed.
That’s why I added a spring and made it work as an impulse switch, and set WizClick to Mode1: default light ON and mode 2: OFF … so you’re switching between the two.
This works good if you DON’T turn OFF the lights in app … by clicking you’re toggling between the 2 modes. But it works horribly if you turn off the lights in app or routine. I expect to click once on the switch to turn it ON, but no, you need at least 2 cycles/clicks and you need to hold it for a couple of seconds at least to register it I guess and it’s so slugish and non-responsive … sometimes it freezes, so you need to hold the switch for 10 seconds or more … it’s quite useless. I complained to Wiz a while ago, but nothing was improved in the meantime