Vision Z-Wave In Wall


(Dave) #1

Has anyone had any experience with these? VISION Z-WAVE IN-WALL 2-RELAY DOUBLE SWITCH(ZL 7432US). Looking for any feedback on these compared to the AEOTEC BY AEON LABS DSC26103-ZWUS Z-WAVE MICRO SWITCH.


Vision Z-Wave In Wall - Unable to bind
#2

Just installed yesterday, switch one is working but I was searching the net to get help with switch two. As long as I can get SW2 to eventually work I will update my experiences. Hard to find help setting these up…


#3

Rene Campos wrote a review of the Enerwave dual switch. It probably applies to the Vision.
"Adding this device to a SmartThings controller was not simple. Following the instructions supplied by Enerwave will only get you one switch working. After a couple of hours searching on the internet I found a thread about this module and the SmartThings controller. Followed the directions on the thread and got my 2 switches working fine. Just that the 2nd relay status takes up to 2 or 3 minutes to update the status, not a big deal.

The thread with the instructions is in the following site:


(Djtrickee No Club) #4

I have received 2 of these and having a heck of a time trying to get them wired into our house. I have had no issues with any other device installations including 3 way GE switches etc. These instructions are really stumping me. Can anyone provide me with some help or real life install pictures? I am pretty competent with electronics and wiring etc. but for some reason this one is stumping me.


(Ray) #5

Your link is not working so I don’t really know which module you are referring to and what kind of problem are you running into?


(Max) #8

Here you go DJTRICKEE - Today I wired up 5 x VISION Z-WAVE IN-WALL 2-RELAY SWITCHES (ZL 7432US) as shown. Apologies for the primitive paint picture but it’s late. I drew some wires in yellow to make it easier to read. Also I’m in Australia so in my cabling RED=Live and BLACK=Neutral. For simplicity I didn’t draw the earth wires from the three cables which are all connected together.

Like MHRAMR above I am only able to get relay 1 to work (with my Aeotec Z-Stick Gen5). I’m hoping to eventually get relay 2 up and running. (Physical switching by hand of each light works perfectly for both switch 1 & 2 but only switch 1 is currently recognised/working with z-wave)

I hope that helps


(Djtrickee No Club) #9

Fantastic! Thanks for responding.


(Max) #10

Hi MHRAMR,

Not sure how useful this info is as I’m using some different hardware to control the switches, but for what it’s worth here’s a reply (in bold text below) I received from the manufacturer of my Z-wave controller RE the second switch. Looks promising for possible future updates from all software controllers…

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RE: Compatability with VISION Z-WAVE IN-WALL 2-RELAY SWITCHES (ZL 7432US)
Inbox

Aeotec by Aeon Labs support@aeotec.freshdesk.com
20:29 (14 hours ago) to me
Hi Max,

The Z-Stick Gen5 is only hardware, this mostly has to do with the software that you are using with the Z-Stick Gen5 in this case. The software you are using will need to support the Multichannel command class and perhaps may require further development to make the switch be seen as 2.

What software are you using in this case?


There are no current firmware updates for the Gen5 Z-Stick, only drivers available currently. All new information will be on our Freshdesk solutions page.

Cheers,
Chris Cheng
Field Application Engineer
Aeon Labs
ccheng@aeon-labs.com

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On Mon, 29 Feb at 2:07 PM , you wrote:
Hi Aeotec,
Awesome Z-Stick! Keep up the great work!
My Aeotec Z-Stick Gen5 works fine with my 5 x Aeotec Micro Switch 2nd Edition…

BUT it will only recognize Relay #1 of my 5 x VISION Z-WAVE IN-WALL 2-RELAY SWITCHES (ZL 7432US)

Physical switching by hand of each light works perfectly for both switch 1 & 2 but only switch 1 is currently recognised/working with z-wave?

Can you please help me get the second relay to work with my Z-stick Gen5?

Cheers,

Max

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(Jim Archer) #11

I feel better that I’m not the only one! Did you get it wired correctly?

I received one of these yesterday and tomorrow I am going to install it, so I was checking out the manual. What’s confusing me is that typically, at least in my house, it’s the hot that is switched to the load, not the neutral. As I look at this it seems to be the same concept. The power goes from the hot through a switch, then into this thing, then out of this thing (via yellow ad red wires) to the load. Then there is an extra hot that goes into this device unswitched (makes sense). White connects to neutral.

I think it would be less confusing if they took out the neutral side of the loads.

At least I think I have this right. We’ll see tomorrow I guess.

Hopefully it will fit into a one gang electrical box. Another thing that occurs to me is that this would work best with switches that toggle as push buttons, since on/off switches would look odd when turned off but the load is on.


(Arin Strom) #12

No, the extra leads are for the optional manual switch. There is only one neutral, used by the relay, as it uses some power it’s self.

Black and white, self explanatory.

One is an antenna.

Two wires on the relay will go to each of the loads, the other side of the load should be connected to the circuit neutral.

The remaining two wires are connected to your manual control switches. The other side of the switch should be connected to hot wire.

There are a couple of solutions to the on/off markings problem. Euro toggles typically don’t have those markings, so if you have a more modern decor, use those. If you must have a classic toggle switch, use a 3-way, and wire it like a normal toggle. 3-ways work fine as 2-ways but they don’t have any markings.


(Jim Archer) #13

This little gadget went in easily, worked great on the first try!


(Ben Hartwell) #14

Got it to work first time, old house with different colored wires to make it more challenging. Following to find out when the second switch will work.


(Carlos Thayer) #15

Thanks for the post! I Used this handler with the Vision ZL 7432 and it works like a charm.


(Trace Curry) #16

Is it a problem if I have a switch loop without a neutral to use a neutral from an adjacent switch in the same gang box?


(Trace Curry) #17

Almost a year later lol still haven’t installed these…but I think the answer to my question is that it’s ok to use a neutral from an adjacent outlet (it’s not an adjacent switch actually) in the same gang box. Please correct me if I’m wrong!


(Daniel Ionescu) #18

IF it’s on the same breaker as the load


(Ray) #19

Just to add to what @NomadTech comment. Apparently the vision relay has a set of dry contact inside so you could also try that if the neutral is on another branch circuit. I am Tagging @jgravert since he has details on this brand relay.


(Daniel Ionescu) #20

I opened one (2 relay version) the other day. No dry contacts available (that’s what I wanted) and no real good way to isolate existing ones. PCB is extremely small and crowded.


(Ray) #22

I guess the single relay is the only one with dry contact. Thanks for providing the info with the dual relay.


(Daniel Ionescu) #23

Here are the inside looks