Scenes Beta!

(jkp) #21

Not really the same. In the family tab, you could see the presence sensor with arrival/departure date/time. Under rooms, you only see present/not present and that does not help if your presence sensor has stopped reporting. you would need to click on a presence sensor to view that info under things and/or rooms.

(Jimmy) #22

ah, good point with the date/time.

(Steve White) #23

I guess Iā€™ll finally have a good reason to finish the dashboard SmartApp I was working on last winter. I still need to add arrival/departure times.

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#24

Thatā€™s exactly the kind of feedback we need :slight_smile: Thanks!

(JIm) #25

Same question here. Been waiting 2 days.

(Jimmy) #26

Pretty impressive considering this thread has only been posted 19 hours!

(JIm) #27

Ok, ok. Fat fingered the key and didnā€™t notice. :grin:

(might be my fake name?) #28

Iā€™m following this thread just for the hell of it. Not interested in the scenes beta test. But I just want to say I just realized that there was a family tab. thanks guys.:sunglasses:

(fightingmajor) #29

Hmmm, kinda like Smartthings should be making royalties off people who write great apps and charge for them :wink:

(Ron Talley) #30

Not having the Family tab is perplexingā€¦

Trying to figure out the difference between this and Routineā€¦Seems like if you added the options thingy to Routines then it would serve the same purpose?

Routine. Turn On/Off theses lights; Set brightness to Xā€¦

(Steve White) #31

I havenā€™t been able to access the tab yet, but my understanding with how other companies have enabled scene-like functionality is that you should be able to set brightness & color on a per-device basis. You cannot do that with routines as those parameters affect all devices. Basically, for routines itā€™s all or nothing.

(Joel W) #32

On the Centercode site it says that A survey will be sent asking for device integration before I am accepted. I already answered it for the Firmware beta. But I guess they are different teams.

(Andrew) #33

@slagle I have signed up for the Samsung Account Migration Beta as well as this one. I have said me too on bugs for both programs where nothing has changed in the app for me. I can not ā€œseeā€ the scenes section, nor am I receiving the banner to migrate. I am not sure what the common thread may be for the two, but I doubt it is a coincidence, but I did not know how to relate the two in centercode.

(Alex) #34

Iā€™m glad we didnā€™t get to implement it on our end!

(Joel W) #35

I just set mine up and have tested each scene, my only complaint is when I no longer need the scene I have to close each lamp on itā€™s own. It should be that if you click the scene it toggles the reverse.

#36

Should let you toggle a scene ON/OFF.

(ActionTiles.com co-founder Terry @ActionTiles; GitHub: @cosmicpuppy) #37

There are dozens of discussions of ā€œScenesā€ that took place 2 or 3 years ago.

One of the issues is what does ā€œOffā€ mean?

In other words:

  • Should the state of all the Lights (Things) in a Scene be recorded before a Scene is activated (turned on) and then restored after a Scene is de-activated (turned off).

  • What happens if some of the Things in the Scene are changed manually while the Scene is ā€œonā€?

  • What happens if another Scene is activated while the first Scene is ā€œonā€? Should the states be stored on a stack and then popped-off one by one in the reverse order?

  • What happens if the Mode of the household changes during a Scene?

There were and are no easy answers to the above questions. I personally can think of how I would like it to work and support my opinion until blue-in-the-face; but there are valid other methods.

That said, I perhaps we will find some consensus during the Beta, but it is probably too late for major changes to be made by SmartThings.

(jkp) #38

You can create a scene to turn off all the devices. I created two scenes - one to turn the devices on and one to turn them off. But I agree, wish you could toggle one tile to turn on/turn off the devices.

(Joel W) #39

To me that is counter intuitive And if you have a number of scenes, and have to duplicate each then the screen is covered and page scrolling is necessary.

(ActionTiles.com co-founder Terry @ActionTiles; GitHub: @cosmicpuppy) #40

The past discussions on this are an interesting read (though Iā€™m biased due to my participation). Honestly, understanding the ideas we walked through helps avoid starting from scratch even if itā€™s too late to become a part of STā€™s current implementationā€¦