Probably dumb question but i am a basic user. I did, although, successfully root my relay and install the app. Now that I have done this and (finally) got my Smartthings network set up - can I use my relay with the latest Smartthings app? If so, how? Thx!
Thanks for the link but i dont understand. I am using the ios app. Sorry what do i do? Sorry for my ignorance.
@mikeyut3 First, you need to go to your shard of the smartthings groovy IDE and load in the device handler and smartapp. Then, if you open the left menu, then click smart apps (in the new app), you will see a plus in the top right. If you load the apps and drivers into the correct shard of the IDE, you will see it pop up at the very bottom. Clicking on it will let you install it. Some text may be missing, and the GUI might be weird, but you can add a relay to it.
Are you trying to control your Wink Relay while using the new Samsung SmartThings mobile app on your phone?
Or you’re asking if you can load the Samsung SmartThings mobile app onto the Wink Relay? If it’s the latter, I think the answer is no as I believe the newest mobile app requires a newer version of Android and has some minimum hardware spec requirements.
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Yes! I am simply trying to control my relay from my ios (new) smartthings mobile app!
Hello all
I am new here but not in the hubitat community where i am discussing an issue related to the "groundhog day’ situation and “encryption unsuccessful”
Out of my 14 relays 4 have “encryption unsuccessful” issues and another 8 units are affected by the "groundhog day’ situation. I am not sure if the "groundhog day’ situation is linked to the encryption unsuccessful issue but pretty scary.
They were all perfectly working until the last month where suddenly one relay was blocked in the Encryption unsuccessful screen. I tried to recover the device using the TTL connection but it was impossible.
I though …ok bad luck and i bough a new one to replace the broken one. Last weekend, two other devices were showing the same error Encryption unsuccessful error and I am not able to recover them anymore…
I understood this issue is related to a certain memory of the device being full. I did almost nothing with these affected devices located in places at home where I am not using at all so i cannot say that these devices were heavily used at all…
I have spent hours with Putty and the Serial connection trying to recover the 4 relays with no success at all.
Any idea or suggestion would be super welcome… I am in a dead end.
I was wondering if the info in the link below might be the solution for the groundhog day situation… Or at least the root cause, but I have no clue if we can apply this to the relay at all
https://androidforums.com/threads/internal-phone-storage-becomes-read-only.347685/
Seriously thinking about replacing the wink relays with tablets and internal switches but my first preliminary cost calculation is above $120 per unit
Thanks… Any help will b welcome
This is the approach I ended up going.
I love the idea behind the Wink Relays, but they were always a bit finicky and underpowered… once I ran into the groundhog day issue, I decided to put them back in drawer and switch over to tablets.
hanks a lot Josh
Can you recommend me any configuration for the tablets? I have seen it’s not easy to find wall mount for tablets and the tablets fitting in those wall mounts. In addition any internal relay ( cheap and reliable) would be fantastic… Thanks and sorry to bother you with this request. If I can reduce the $120 budget per tablet, it would be marvelous
If you want decent performance, I don’t think you’re going to be able to go much lower than that.
Fire tablets tend to be a popular choice as they’re a good balance of power / performance - a good ‘bang for the buck’ if you will. You can often find the 10" Fire tablets for <$100 during sales (like Prime Day, Black Friday, etc). And the 8" for less than that.
The following thread has some tips on hardware:
thanksssss
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Have you seen this device?
Hey folks, I got my new Wink Relay setup without hitting too many issues and I’m using ActionTiles to create the dashboard for it.
The only remaining piece of the project is to hook up the two physical buttons so they control the light (Hue) and fan (Zigbee) in my bedroom. The only way I got this to work even remotely close was via webCoRE:
However, the lag is unbearable. It usually takes 10-15 seconds for the lights to react and sometimes they don’t react at all. Any idea what I might be missing?
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What rooting app did you use?
I used KingRoot. The first time around I signed in to the Wink Relay and installed some updates which broke the rooting and reverted most of my changes. So I had to reset it to factory settings and start over this time avoiding the updates from Wink. It’s still unclear to me if it’s possible to get updates and still keep the device rooted; doesn’t seem to be the case.
I used KingRoot Version 5.2.0
Interesting. My first wink relay was rooted with kingroot as well and soon after, the groundhog day issue occured.
I don’t think it’s a coincident that the groundhog day error happened only AFTER rooting the device. That’s the risk with the root apps as you don’t know how safe they are or what are actually doing. Kingroot, behind the scenes, install many files into the filesystem and has the ability to recreate the files even if they are deleted. So if the wink system tries to remove it, it gets created again. That could be one possibile theory of excessive read/writes.
Take a look at this script someone make to manually remove kingroot and replace it with a safer supersu root. You can see how many files are installed by kingroot and how difficult it is to remove after it has been installed.
https://github.com/HemanthJabalpuri/Replace_KingRoot_with_SuperSU/blob/master/root.sh
I rooted a 2nd wink relay with one of the really old versions of kingroot, which was less advanced and did not have as much bloatware installed on it. I played around with the STwinkRelay app integration but it was never stable for me. After a few weeks of playing around, I factory reset the relay to prevent another bricked relay.
Thanks
I was almost convinced kingroot was the guilty in this story…
Last weekend another relay was down…
I am going to try the methods you posted to remove king root and see I can stop the rest of my relays to be affected…
Thanks for your help
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Hello there
I spent few days trying to investigate the best and cheapest option for me to replace the relays… this is what I did
1.) I removed the front panel of the wink relay and kept the back of the relay ( to get a 5v source )
2.) I bought 2 sonoff basic devices ( $6 dollars each)
3>) I tasmotized the devices to connect them to Hubitat… It tooks several hours readading watching videos but I managed to doit with a serial board ( $8 value in amazon). The sonoff devices work really really well after they are integrated to Hubitat.
4.)I installed the 2 sonoff devices in the wall box where I had originally the relay in parallel to the already mentioned back of the wink relay.
5.) I used an old samsung galaxy Tab A6 and removed the back of the tablet cover
7.) I took 5v power from the wink relay piece and connect it to the tablet
6.) I screwed the back of the tablet using the same screw holes used for the original Wink relay
7.) I put back the tablet into the back cover ( already screwed to the wall)
8.) I connected the tablet and installed Full kiosk
9.) Here the picture of job finished.
The white wall cover you see in the picture is not at all related to this installation.
You can still see some old marks in the wall form the previous wink relay installation… I need to work on them… not yet finished.
I am pretty satisficed with the result… I accept ideas, criticism, etc
Overall the cost was as follow
Tablet : $50 to $75 Several options on eBay and Amazon
Sonoff off: $6 per unit 2 units
Serial board: 8 dollars in Amazon
Full kiosk license: $8
In total less than $100
Thanks Josh for your good advises. I have a question related to the full kiosk… The motion detection is working well during the day but very difficult to wake up the tablet at night,… I cannot find any option to wake up the tablet by touching the screen… How do you guys solve the issue to turn of the screen at night? Thanks
I am not planning to do this at home with all my devices at a time, but step by step replace the wink relays with them once they show the well known issues already explained in previous post.
Thanks
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extremely helpful. i was able to use it with out having to use classic. and i didnt have to change component false. thanks for your help