[OBSOLETE] SHM Delay Version 2.0

When I was setting this up before, I was installing the smartapps using code. This time I used github and repository. I literally started from scratch, removed and deleted everything, and started over. The only thing I wasn’t sure of is whether or not to publish my device handler “mitchpond : Centralite Keypad”. I chose to publish it this time. I’m using IRIS security keypad 3405-L. Iris I’ve followed step by step, and still having the same problem. :frowning: Why do I have to be SO stubborn and hard headed that I can’t let this get the best of me? I should be able to figure this out.

This may seem redundant but list everything you are doing from the time you arm the system (including how you are arming) to how you are testing. Be very specific.

It took me a week to figure out what part of the directions I was missing. The program is very detailed and having it being able to accommodate 3 different keypads and multiple DTH adds to the difficulty in setting it up.

I actually gave up and uninstalled it. The next morning I slowly re-read all of the docs, assuming I knew absolutely nothing and that’s when I discovered my error. Now that I figured it out, it works great.

List how you’re doing the testing and let’s go from there. Also, can you do screenshots from your phone? That may come in handy if you can.

If you go into the IDE
*click My Devices

  • scroll to the keypad
  • click on the keypad’s name, Type should read “Centralite Keypad”
  • if not click edit, the change the device to “Centralite Keypad” It’s at the end of the device list. Save everything.

Then retry everything following @oldcomputerwiz’ advice.

BTW the device handler must be Published, then click tap For Me

I thought you were taking a break for a few days? Can’t stay away?

Keypad type is Centralite Keypad

I did publish the device handler and tapped for me.

I’m following these step by step instructions:

Test the simulated sensor

  1. Tap Dashboard
  2. Tap Armed Away
  3. Tap My Home
  4. Scroll to the simulated contact sensor device. It should show “closed”, if not tap it once to close it. Tap to open it.
  5. Alarm should trigger . Clear alarm by tapping Disarm, clear intrusion in phone app, continue with Exit Delay test.

~At this point, everything seems to be working properly.~

Test Exit Delay

  1. In the SHMDelay Profile set entry delay to 0, set exit delay to 30 seconds (save it)
  2. Close the door associated with the real contact sensor
  3. Tap Dashboard in phone app
  4. Tap Armed Away. Allow system to arm. ~I assume waiting until the armed away is highlighted in blue, and next to SHM it says everything OK with a green dot means system is armed.~
  5. Open the door ; Alarm should not trigger
  6. Close the door
  7. Wait “exit delay” seconds
  8. Open the door; Alarm should trigger Clear alarm by tapping Disarm, clear intrusion in phone app, continue with Entry Delay test.
    ~This is where everything seems to fall apart. I open the door, wait a minute, then close the door. No alarm, ok good, that simulates me leaving. Then I close the door and wait another minute since my delay is set for 30 seconds, then open the door, and no alarm.

I feel like the system is not reading the door sensors. I have a delay set up for all 4 of my doors, and none of them are setting off the alarm.

Screenshot_20190406-145140_SmartThings Screenshot_20190406-145132_SmartThings

Today’s “job” was 4 hours, 4 supermarkets, some driving, checking the status of Food Sample Tables and the company’s representatives, taking photos, sending texts, then writing a report. Very different than working on TV or Movie set, but I acted as my best version of a friendly corporate representative. I know, a friendly corporate representative is an oxymoron.

There’s always lots of downtime on a set. It’s not glamorous, but most of the time enjoy it. I get to meet people, in person. Even when I’m busy on a set, I can usually keep up with this to a degree, but it is sometimes difficult to respond from a cell phone, human sized keyboards are much easier for me.

I appreciate you chiming in and helping. Feel free to continue helping. To those of you looking for an answer about why your keypad exploded, died, wont chime, or looks like blinking Christmas lights, my apologies for this way off topic reply.

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Hello Erica
That is a lot of screen shots! Is there a question or issue?

I am using a V2 Iris Keypad, and recently moved from Iris, where everything was essentially “plug and play”, to ST, where I have had to do some serious leg work to get the same devices to work. The keypads have been the most challenging yet. I have tried several DTHs and smart apps, and have ended up installing those recommended on this feed, too the letter as advised by arnb, who in my opinion is very gifted in what he has achieved and ST will not offer. I however end up with the same problems. Choosing the arming options on SHM does not sync with the keypads, and vice versa. Selections on the keypad however are still being pushed as messages, and everything seems to work well other then being on the same page as SHM. Please advise.

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I’m sorry for taking so much of your time. I honestly thought I would figure this out. I appreciate the time you have taken with me, and getting to know a little about you through your non related reply. I need to take a break before my head explodes and get to chores. Mine include turning on the sprinklers since Spring seems to finally come, redo all of my drip line sprinklers that my dog chewed up over the winter, power rake, mow, and fertilize my lawn. I’ll give it another try this evening. Have a good day, and Thanks again.

I’m just desperate to figure out why when the alarm is set, I open and close the door to simulate leaving, wait the delay set time, and open my door that the alarm is not being triggered. I’m not even worried about the fact that the keypads are working or not at this point. I am concerned that the alarm is set, and when opening doors, the system is not registering they are being opened and the alarm is not going off.

I totally understand. Should you be unable to figure it out, send me a Private Message including a couple of good times for me to contact you, and a number where you may be reached.

The alarm will not trigger in Away(On) mode until the entry delay time expires, should be almost instant in Stay(partial). Try it in Stay should fire as soon as you open the door.

This is usually corrected by adding/creating a modefix profile which amongst other things keeps the keypads and SHM in sync on arming and mode changes from any source.

I understand your frustration with ST and keypads where they are 100% user supported. They are fully and more easily supported on Hubitat, but it’s still a bit buggy with keypads, but that should be fixed soon. Besides that, keypads can be a total PITA to get properly paired.

A reply was added at the end of the thread, hopefully it will direct user’s to the proper SmartApp.

@rontalley If it’s not too much trouble, please go back to your post on that thread changing the link to SHM Delay 2.0.

Yes, I understand what you’re saying about away and the delay time. I armed it as stay, opened every door, and still no trigger, no alarm.

Reviewed the screen shots found 2 issues.

1.Delay profile has 0 for entry delay time.should be perhaps 30

2 Keypad status shows as 0. Should say Off,Armed /away , etc.

This should not stop the intrusion from working.in stay mode.

Please post ascreen shot of the 3405 L keypad from phone app .

Following is my 3405L

I only had 0, because it mentioned that in the testing mode. I normally have it set to 30. I have no idea why it says 0 next to the keypads. Maybe they didn’t install properly. That shouldn’t affect the alarm not being triggered when the door opens though right?
Here’s my keypads

I found this interesting. So it appears that the delay profile is sending a beep command to the keypad.


I wonder why it’s not triggering the alarm? Do you think the code stops if the keypad doesn’t read the message and continue to trigger the alarm? ~caveat, I have no idea if that’s how code works~