[OBSOLETE] Lutron Connected Bulb Remote

Thanks for all of the work and comments in this thread… been very helpful…

So, I’ve been using 3 Hue White (newer version of the Lux) bulbs for about 3 months now… after a power outage, they came back on, but lost communication with the Hub (v1) (lost a few Link bulbs also, but easier to reconnect)… since these are not fully supported and don’t have a toggle method to reset, I purchased this Lutron remote… I’ve added the alpha device type and reset the remote, added to ST (to get it on the ST ZigBee network), no problems… the remote is successful at connecting to and/or resetting the Hue White bulbs directly… but, I can’t get the bulbs to reconnect or connect as new devices to the ST hub… I can’t see anything happening in the Live Logging with the bulbs (or the remote, since the initial setup)…

Does anyone have any clue how to get them back under control of ST?

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I think you need to factory reset the bulbs using the remote. With the remote very close to the bulb, hold the 2nd and bottom buttons on the remote. The bulb should blink and the remote’s led will come on. Keep holding until the remote’s led goes off.

Bottom right video here:
http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Products/Pages/Components/ConnectedBulbRemoteControl/Overview.aspx

Once each bulb is factory reset, you should be able to connect it to ST as if you just bought it.

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Yeah… I’ve done that… worked just fine… except I can’t get the bulb to be found by ST after the reset… very perplexing…

That is strange. You can’t connect it to the remote before connecting it back to ST using the Connect New Device process otherwise it might again be on a different zigbee network. That’s the only thing I can think of that could be happening…

(Note: You’ll pretty much never see anything in the logs from the remote. It only sends out broadcast messages, which the ST hub isn’t setup for. This is normal behavior from the remote.)

Hi,

I am planning on getting aLutron connected bulb remote.

And I want to use it with ST Hub.
Can I use it as a button device and trigger actions with it ?
Does it have to control only lights ? Or any action could be added to it ?

If yes, can I use each button as a different function ?
(as it has 4 buttons)

No, unfortunately you cannot. This remote will only work to directly control certain zigbee bulbs (namely bulbs using Zigbee Light Link standard).

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thanks. so it uses a different different device type than remotes like “aeon minimote” ?

I would expect to be able to integrate it like a button device using custom smart apps (since it is connected to ST)
it is a device with buttons :slight_smile:

Correct. Both ST and the users here in the community have tried, but unfortunately there is no way for the hub to know when the buttons are pressed on the remote with the current architecture of ST. It’s mostly the way the remote was designed, but also has to do with how ST has implemented zigbee in their hub. Most dedicated zigbee light link controllers (Hue, Osram) might have better luck, maybe not though.

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So I have my remote working using the alpha device handler, and it did not steal the bulbs from ST; however, after I use the remote to turn OFF the bulbs, turning them back on has some odd behavior. Using the ST app it works fine (though it does not have the correct bulb state, so I have toggle the button OFF then ON), but when using my Echo, Alexa turns the bulbs ON only to the dimmest setting and then complains. I have to then go into the ST app and turn the dimmer back to 100% for each bulb.

Hi,

I have purchased a Lutron Connected Bulb Remote for resetting my Hue bulbs.
Now that I’ve finished using for this purpose, I am looking for a way to make use of it in other ways.

Can anyone tell me what I can do with the device handler given in the first post of this thread ?

I want to continue using my Hue bulbs with my Hue bridge
But it would be nice if it is possible to use the remote as a button device.

Thanks.

I’d appreciate a reply…

This device does not directly work on the SmartThings platform at this time. You can bind it to a group of bulbs after connecting it (and the bulbs) to ST and use it to control those lights directly, but button presses are not sent to the hub and it cannot be used as a button controller in the traditional sense. Using it with the bulbs in this way can cause ST to lose track of the state of the bulbs temporarily, depending on the bulb.

I’m not sure if you can add it to the Hue hub’s mesh. You might be able to use it similarly to the Hue dimmer.

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Thanks.

Actually I like usingmy bulbs connected to Hue bridge.
I understand from what you wrote that this setup is not supported with Lutron remote.

What about the device handlers given in this thread ? What do they do ?
I had thought that they were made for using Lutron connected to ST hub.

Btw, I couldn’t find how to use it like a Hue dimmer.
Do you know a method ?

Thanks.

All the handler in this thread does is allow the device to be recognized and named appropriately. It has no actual functionality.

As far as using the remote with the Hue bridge, I’ll have to defer to others on that. I don’t use a Hue bridge.

are you sure that the device handler and the smart app does not provide any functionality here:

?

I assumed you were talking about the handler in the first post. The one you linked to does provide methods that the associated smart app can use to set the group that certain ZigBee bulbs belong to, but nothing as far as button controller use. It also will not work if your bulbs are connected to the Hue bridge. Direct connect only.

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Thanks Mitch for responding! Mekabe all my device handler does different is provide a way to add bulbs that aren’t light link to the same group id the Lutron sends commands to (mainly US Osram bulbs). ST still doesn’t see any button presses or anything.

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thanks for your replies.

so this Lutron remote is useless to me when I use my bulbs connected to the Hue bridge.

Actually I already have minimote as a button device. But it would be nice to use Lutron as a second remote.

Is there any hope for future ?

This remote can be used if your bulbs are on the Hue bridge. First you have to (sort of) pair the remote to the Hue bridge. I recommend first resetting the remote (hold on and off buttons for 15 seconds.) Then put the Hue bridge in search mode for the Hue dimmer (settings->my devices->connect new devices, Hue dimmer switch, Orange LED blinking, Option 1). When the bridge starts searching, hold the Lutron remote right next to it, and hold the top/on button until the LED blinks and then turns off. The Hue app will not show that it’s discovered anything, but it’s “paired.” Then you can pair the remote to bulbs without it stealing the bulbs from the Hue bridge.

I’ve wired most of my Hue lights permanently on, and use these remotes where the wall switches would be.

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thanks. that’s very useful.
I can now control my hue lights with Lutron remote.

But there is no way to select which bulb to use, right ?
I mean the remote does not have any method to select bulb before turning on/off ?