*** No longer supported *** [RELEASE] FLAIR DEVICES with new capabilities for building physical zones in your home and controlling your mini/window splits, portable heaters/coolers

Hi, this is the Flair devices thread, and you’re asking about the Keen Home vents?..

For the Keen Home vents, you can use my own DTH which calls the appropriate setLevel commands when you press the ‘on’/‘off’ button.

You can also press the configure tile to avoid too much polling and some battery depletion.

Regards.

Many thanks for the helpful information.

Hi,

For all my contributors, I’ve just released new versions of MyPuckDevice (v1.2.3), MyFlairHVACUnit (v1.1.9c), MyFlairVent (v1.2) to correct the following:

  • MyFlairVent’s setLevel selector now calls the local setLevel instead of the parent Dimmer Switch Capability to avoid null values in the Level attribute
  • minor ocfDeviceType adjustments

In the new Samsung Connect app:

If you’re a contributor, you can download the new versions at my store using your original sellfy download link.

To download the code, go to:

www.ecomatiqhomes.com/store
Regards.

Hi,

For all my contributors, I’ve just released new versions of MyFlairHVACUnit (v1.2):

  • corrected setpoint value issue in Farenheit introduced in the last version (v1.1.9c).

In the new Samsung Connect app:

If you’re a contributor, you can download the new version at my store using your original sellfy download link.

To download the code, go to:

www.ecomatiqhomes.com/store
Regards.

@yvesracine I’m completely new to SmartThings, having bought myself a hub and buying your " My Flair Vent Bundle (Vent + Puck Devices)" integration. It took me about an hour to get things working from scratch. NOTE: I couldn’t add the TSTAT using your solution because your bundle would throw an error when i did.

I use Flair vents with a Ecobee thermostat and sensors; controlling 6 seperate rooms. I plan to integrate your solution into Home Assistant which is my main IoT controller. The flows is as follows: User <> Home Assistant <> Smarthings <> Yves’s solution <> Flair Vents, Ecobee controller and sensors.

I hope you can help me with a few questions:

(1) it is possible to expose the 6 rooms (similar to how it appears in the Flair app) control it in that manner (i.e. as 6 seperate thermostats, one for each room?)

(2) If the above is not possible, what is the best approach to configure/manage the control of of temperature in each room individually? noting the following:

  • I don’t want to run the risk of the heater being turned on and all vents are closed and I don’t want to have to manually control everything otherwise it would be better to just use the Flair standard integration with ecobee
  • I’d like to be able to control the whole solution from Home Assistant which i’m proficient at.
  • I’m dreading the thought of having to fully configure all the logic myself in Home Assistant once everything is exposed there, I’m hoping there’s an easier way to achieving what i’m after which is simply exposing the Flair app’s style of control into Home Assistant. Doing it myself I’m also having to manage the risk of all vents closing and the heater still running.

Your help and advice is appreciated.

Hi @Sebastian_Doan,

I’m not familiar with Home Assistant as I’m really focused on the SmartThings platform so I’m afraid that I don’t have a plug and play solution for you.

All I can say is that my zoning smartapps can expose rooms as virtual zone devices (1 to many rooms) with the thermostatSetpoint capability. I don’t know if it’s sufficient for your needs or not.

In the zoning smartapps, there are many safeguards in place to avoid closing too many vents at the same time.

But again, all the smartapps were designed for the SmartThings ecosystem, not to be used by a bridge to Home Assistant.

For more information about My zoning smartapps, refer to the following thread:

I’d recommend looking into ScheduleRoomTempControl or ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule depending on your needs.

P. S. You couldn’t create the thermostat because you contributed to the Flair vent bundle which doesn’t include the Flair tstat DTH. Anyway, for your use case, this wouldn’t help.
Regards

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I just bought your integration for Flair and it works great. I was finally able to add my Flair to smartthings! Thank you for your great contribution!

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Hi,

For all my contributors, I’ve just released a new version of MyPuckDevice (v1.2.4):

  • corrected new SmartThings UI issue (lock UI) by adding the ocfDeviceType

In the new Samsung Connect app:

If you’re a contributor, you can download the new version at my store using your original sellfy download link.

To download the code, go to:

www.ecomatiqhomes.com/store
Regards.

Hi There,

I’ve been struggling to decide if I should use Flair or Keen for new vents. I have contacted Keen and the vents in the sizes I need won’t be available until next year so that kinda made the choice for me. I started down the path of setting up Flair and was about to purchase when I noticed the Flair devices are not available in the new or the classic app. I’m I stuck using Keen, or is there a work around?

Thanks,
Jose

The flair dth is made by a third party and requires you to buy a license but it does work

That’s great. I assume you’re able to get the puck’s temperature, etc?

See above in this thread

Obviously I read the thread before I posted. The directions by @yvesracine claim that you can set up Flair vents with the classic app first, and I found that I cannot do this, so I am weary of purchasing before I know for sure it will work with ST. Are you saying you now have to create the device(s) from a DHT provided by @yvesracine? Also, once I purchase the DHT, is the code readable? Can I change it around if I want?

Thanks,
Jose

You can’t set them up in either app until you’ve installed the device handler. You need to read around on how custom device handlers work first.
You don’t need to use the classic app either, and it’s going away next month.

Here is the global picture (and this may change in the next weeks):

Yes, you can create the Flair vent devices using the ST classic mobile app (you can run both Samsung connect app AND the ST classic mobile app in parallel for the moment). All the custom DTHs need (not only My Flair devices, but all the community devices) the ST classic mobile app for their initial creation. After their creation, you can use them in the Samsung connect app (see 1st post for the details).

It’s not clear after October 14 if the new Samsung connect app will support the instantiation of the custom devices, but it looks like it based on the following thread:

However, for the moment, the custom capabilities are still in alpha, and the code is not mature.

Regards.

@mvevitsis I know how they work. I have created more than a dozen of them to control my insteon devices. Thanks for your input.

Thanks for the post, @yvesracine . I am still confused by your post. For the devices I created, I created them from my graph account; no classic (or new) app needed. I guess if I read between the lines, once I have the DHTs (from you? ) I should be able to create all the deivices regardless of where I create them from, right?

Thanks,
Jose

FYI, Flair devices are cloud-to-cloud integration between SmartThings & Flair. Those devices are not zigbee or zwave devices (not local).

In order to create them, the IDE is not enough as you need an authentication flow (oAuth) to be allowed to interact with the Flair APIs. Without proper authorization, you cannot interact with the Flair APIs.

For more information about the oAuth flow, please refer to the ST community wiki:

https://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=MyFlairServiceMgr#UI_and_integration_setup_workflow

There is also a troubleshooting section for your questions on how to create a custom smartapp such as MyFlairServiceMgr.

Regards.

Thanks for your reply, @yvesracine. So currently, the only way to connect to the flair devices is through your DHTs/App ? I guess I was looking for the ST app itself to be able to do this.

Regards,
Jose