So why clutter-up this one?
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Lol. Outdated. Seriouslyā¦
Whatās so advanced about ecobee? Itās remote sensors? Integrated Alexa? At the end of the day a thermostat is always going to be a Thermostat.
Ecobee doesnāt have the Ecosystem that Nest has hand-down.
I have no problem saying there API needs to be much more advanced and open, but it works now and it is what it is.
My initial point was that he didnāt come here asking about whether he should get a Nest or Ecobee. In your usual fashion you are pushing Ecobeeās over Nest to try and drum up some business for your SmartApps and Devices.
That bugs me because thatās not what this community is about. I respect the fact that you want to make money for the time you spend on your developments but popping into every thermostat topics to push Ecobee is annoying.
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And, arenāt you trying yourself to monetize your efforts by providing some real time event processing for the Nest devices (which you deserve btw) ??
Iām not trying here to sell my products, Iām trying to give better choices to non technical people who are looking into buying a really āsmartā thermostat.
P.S. The initial thread was a question about the viability of the Nestā¦ So, Iām providing another fair answer to this question.
Iām not here to have a debate iām merely stating my opinion whether you agree with me or not is irrelevant. Obviously others do as well.
If you want to be helpful provide comparisons/facts based on your personal experiences if youāve owned both.
I personally have zero experience with Ecobee so I canāt comment to how āSmartā it is and I certainly donāt rely on tech journalists to provide me with decision making facts on whether one device is better than another. I like to review forums with real users opinions/issues to see if a product is right for me.
Well, obvsiously, Iām bias toward ecobee and, on top of it, I ask for a contribution for my code because of the extensive range of features I provide with my DTH and smartapps.
So, Iām not neutral, and thatās why I would not post my personal experience with any other thermostatsā¦
Iād rather rely on several neutral reviewers from well established technical magazines who do reviews like that every dayā¦
My thoughts areā¦ if you are into smarthome technology and/or have a SmartThings, why waste money on a Nest, Ecobee, etc. Get the cheapest functional Zwave or other compatible thermo and use your smarthings / logic to control it. I bought CT100s. They work great.
It really depends on your needs (do you have a big house or a small appartment?) and your use cases.
Z-wave thermostats are fine (I have some at my house as secondary thermostats), but in a large house, they are not at par with ecobee or even the Nest. They lack many features and reliability.
And, the SmartThingsā scheduling is not as good as the ecobee scheduling (there are many threads about the ST scheduling failures), so I would not recommend Z-wave/Zigbee thermsotats in a house as the primary thermostat.
Regards.
I am not prepared to heat and cool my home solely based on ST logic. If I could do it all local, okay, but the cloud failures are too frequent in my mind.
The Nest user experience and network reliability is exceptional. Perfect? No but what is.
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Too each their own.
Hereās the thing, despite the lack of reliability of ST - and you can easily see I have been one of the most vocal folks about STās failuresā¦ it has never impacted (meaningfully) my HVAC desires.
Why? Well, mainly because I am never going to be as sensitive to the timing and reliability of things related to HVAC as I am when it comes to things like lights, locks, etcā¦ those need to work, work right away and every single time without fail.
HVAC, the logic doesnāt have to HIT right away, a few minutes delay is never noticed and between routines, and webcore watchdogs I have setup it always switches as I need it do so and if these logic engines are written in a robust fashion, they can back each other up and keep and eye out and cleanup any issues that result in a setting getting delayed or dropped. Be glad to share how if anyone is interested. Now if ST was down for 24 hours, I might have to hit the up down button on the temp on my Ct100s, but even that has never once happened.
As far as size of house - I have plenty of smart devices that pull in temp information and I could use that in my logic, but I donāt personally care to/need to do do, but one easily could do this to mirror what ecobee does in that regard.
I am not sure what supports that Zwave thermos are not reliable. Nor, at least when combined with smarthings, lack features. This is in response to the claim by others in this thread btw.
Just my 2 cents thoughā¦
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oh the high and almighty. Such a dick!
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It also depends where you liveā¦ On the East Coast, scheduling failures are a big issueā¦
If the furnace or the AC doesnāt start in the middle of winter/summer, this could mean serious damages to your house: bursting pipes, mold, and so onā¦
You donāt want to rely solely on SmartThings to schedule your primary thermostat in your homeā¦
For lights, thatās fine, but not for your primary thermostat.
Burp! Wait, what?! I have the best thermostat, period.
He he itās so funny, I only see half the discussion but I can figure out what it is about - itās THAT easy LOL
Laughing my webCoRE off 
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Hereās another nice thermostat. Itās a cat! he he he
Still looking for the API documentation for it
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