Matter - smart home connectivity standard (formerly Project CHIP)

More about Tasker and Matter.

https://www.reddit.com/r/tasker/comments/141m2as/dev_tasker_625_beta_tasker_is_going_into_home/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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I’m impatiently awaiting Aqara’s Matter update for my G3 camera. I have several of their sensors connected to it and would love to get them connected to Home Assistant and SmartThings (once it supports bridges :confounded:)

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This is a little disappointing. I don’t think ABB makes any direct to consumer products, do they? Everything is commercial or industrial.

This feels like a buzzword acquisition, like when Samsung bought smartthings. ABB wants to be able to say they are a leader in Matter and Thread, I doubt if they actually want the Eve products. The closest they come is their solar energy inverters, and even those are typically professionally installed.

Prosumers supported with ABB smart energy storage solutions

I’m not saying they’re going to kill the eve line, they’ll let it run as an independent division, so they can continue to get the buzzword advantage. But individual consumer devices sold at retail for under $100 are not going to be their highest corporate priority.

It’s not a weird acquisition, because I understand why ABB would want it, but I don’t think it’s going to bring great benefits to individual consumers.

JMHO, of course.

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I agree. It may benefit us consumers by ensuring Matters gets off the ground more?

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Probably not the current line of consumer products, but my inference is that they are already present in the smart home new-build market and they would like the Matter and Thread know-how in order to produce products for the smart home retrofit market.

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Is it possible they’re interested in this for industrial equipment as well? When I was working in automation, DeviceNet was a new protocol that was supposed to make it easier to integrate sensors / actuators. It’s been 20 years and I haven’t kept up, but maybe if there aren’t already new wireless equivalents, ABB is interested in using Matter/Thread for machine networking - or maybe not, there could be too much overhead there for that application.

There’s a new “tip” in the app on how to use Matter devices with SmartThings.

Interesting list of which Samsung devices are matter controllers: it now includes some sound bars and smart monitors. :thinking:

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Conspicuously absent: Wi-Fi hubs :frowning:

  "zigbeeAvailability": "Available",
  "zwaveAvailability": "Available",
  "lanAvailability": "Available",
  "matterAvailability": "Unsupported",
  "localVirtualDeviceAvailability": "Available"
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Update on the Eve acquisition:

A friend of mine who is German pointed out to me that Busch-Jaeger, a 140 year old German brand that does offer direct to consumer smart lighting systems, including some friends of hue Zigbee green power devices, was acquired as a division by ABB more than 60 years ago. Busch-Jaeger operates as a standalone division, and is itself a member of the CSA. So the umbrella company does have some experience with direct to consumer devices, and if eve is operated on the same business structure as Busch-Jaeger it might then continue to offer the same kind of product line as it does now.

My friend said, “if the headline was ‘Busch-Jaeger acquires eve‘, you would think it was just a normal acquisition, right?“ And I think that’s true. :thinking:

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One of Broadcom’s 2nd Gen Wi-Fi 7 access point SoCs integrate Thread, Bluetooth LE, and Zigbee. It also claims to support Matter. Unfortunately, it’s the enterprise / SMB model.

For these three 2nd Gen chips (all have Wi-Fi 7), Broadcom added some IoT radios:

  • BCM6765 Residential AP SoC: no IoT radios added :frowning:
  • BCM47722 Enterprise / SMB AP SoC: Thread, Zigbee, Bluetooth (“and Matter protocol”)
  • BCM4390 Client SoC: Thread, Zigbee, Bluetooth

Perhaps they think consumers already have enough Thread Border Routers. Still quite early days for Wi-Fi 7, but glad Broadcom added IoT radios to some AP SoCs. Now just if they’ll do the same for consumers, heh.

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All 3 are UL certified as well. Nice. I think matter is taking some mass-market consumer concerns into effect, not just price. :sunglasses:

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Updated the firmware on my devices (from 2500 miles away) and, boom, Matter support.

Have to test with my Echo Dot 4 when I’m back at that house next time.

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So…while the latest version of thread established a vendor-neutral standard for thread border routers, theoretically making it possible for any thread certified device to join any existing thread network, it turns out that they didn’t require a standardization of the security method of locking the keys that let you join a network. And different platforms are using different security methods. :thinking:

That explains why people are reporting different results depending on which matter controller they start from. And why people are seeing multiple thread networks where, theoretically, there ought to be only one.

The following is a very good explainer on this issue:

@Automated_House

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