Well ya learn something new everyday, there was me thinking local control kinda meant what was written on the tin not just the small print on the back
So I guess now I need backup local automation with devices that are local incase a timed local automation gets missed
Lesson learnt
If you miss a timed local automation by way of activating lights after the automation time for off, the net drops out your then stuck with lights on which makes edge and local as useful as cloud