Kwikset open outside not inside

[Dick_Feldman]

I have an automation working that turns some lights on when I unlock my Kwikset lock. But it’s annoying to have lights turn on when I unlock it from the inside to go out. Can I refine my automation to trigger lights only when opened from the outside?

[Bry (Bryan)]

I’d put a motion sensor over the door (on the inside) and exclude running if the sensor shows motion.

[RBoy (www.rboyapps.com - Making SmartThings Easy!)]

The stock device handlers do not provide that level of visibility or control. However you can differentiate between outside and inside controls if your locks report it and with this device handler: [RELEASE] Universal Enhanced Z-Wave Lock Device Handler for Schlage, Yale, Kwikset, IDLock, Popp, Danalock, August Pro, Keywe, Philia, Samsung

You may also need to use this app to create the automation to turn on lights when the keypad is unlocked from outside and not manually: [RELEASE] Lock User Management (LUM)

Check them out for more details.

[Dick_Feldman]

Thanks very much. I’ve found the handlers and all pretty hard to figure out. I’ve tried but mostly found it beyond me. Do you know of a simple way t omanage these or a really clear tutorial?
Thanks,
Dick

[JDRoberts]

@Dick_Feldman

Thanks very much. I’ve found the handlers and all pretty hard to figure out. I’ve tried but mostly found it beyond me. Do you know of a simple way t omanage these or a really clear tutorial?
Thanks,
Dick

The following community FAQ explains the basic concepts and terminology for using custom handlers. The app examples are from the classic app, but again the basic ideas and terminology is still the same. Why don’t you start with that and see if it helps clear up any of the confusion.

(The topic title is a clickable link)

FAQ: An Overview of Using Custom Code in SmartThings (SmartThings Classic)

So you’re new to SmartThings, you asked a question, and someone suggested “custom code” as an answer. Or you were browsing the forums, and you found something that sounded like it would be perfect for what you wanted, but again, “uses custom code.” What does that mean, how hard is it to do, and what’s the difference between a “SmartApp” and a “Device Type Handler”? (Note: the official terminology has changed a couple of times. “device type handler,” “device handler,” “DTH,” and “device type” all mean the same thing, and you will find all these terms used in the forums.) SECTION I: SMARTAPPS AND DEVICE HANDLERS: WHAT THEY ARE SmartAPPS: Tiny Programs to decide what a specific device should do when, or to collect the information from a specific device SmartApps, including the various f…

[RBoy (www.rboyapps.com - Making SmartThings Easy!)]

Yes it can be intimidating for new users but essentially it’s a simple copy paste job. See these two links for step by step instructions on how to install them

Device Handlers:

Device Handler Installation Instructions

SmartApps:

SmartApp Installation Instructions

[Dick_Feldman]

You make it sound so easy, but I keep getting sent around in circles. I click on https://community.smartthings.com/t/release-lock-user-management-lum/7043 to get the SmartAPP (I think I’ve already installed the Device Handler) and it sends me back to your advertisement. How do I install the SmartAPP?
Dick

[RBoy (www.rboyapps.com - Making SmartThings Easy!)]

Looks like you figured it out

[Dick_Feldman]

Yes I did and it’s been working very well. But just today (right after an update) I’m getting inaccurate notifications that the lock was unlocked with the key. Kind of alarmed me this morning. How can I approach fixing this?
Thanks,
Dick

[RBoy (www.rboyapps.com - Making SmartThings Easy!)]

Notifications come from the lock, it could be a delayed event from the mesh / platform. If it happens again try to factory reset your lock and check if you mesh has any ghost devices which can cause delays.