How to keep people from manually turning off switches associated with smart devices?


(Big Hoss) #1

I have my Ring floodlight camera, and 2 smart bulbs in my front hallway fixture, as well as 2 smart bulbs in my front porch fixture.

This morning, I found my wife had gone through the house and turned off all the light switches, taking it all offline.

So I followed back through, turning the switches back on, and sadly, I had to use a strip of clear packing tape to keep the switches in the on position.

Is there a more elegant solution to keeping folks from being forgetful and by habit manually turning switches on and off?


(Jimmy) #2

Use smart switches


(Big Hoss) #3

Long term plan for the lighting, but what about the floodlight camera?


#4

People most typically run into this with smart bulbs, so there are a couple of FAQs in the forum that should give you some ideas. The same principles apply whether it’s a Wi-Fi camera, a pump, a smart bulb, or any other device where you don’t want the power turned off at the switch.

The main solutions all come down to a couple of basic categories:

  1. put a child safety lock over the existing switch to remind people not to use it. This tends to be most successful if you have voice control of the devices, because most people seem to like to use voice control and they just need the reminder.

For a device which should be turned off only in emergencies, probably like a camera, there are also switch locks available which are intended for use with things like freezers or medical equipment. Very similar to the child safety locks, it’s just that they lock completely.

  1. swap out the existing switch for a battery operated device. There are some which are designed to fit over the top of the existing switch, and some which would need A little more creativity.

  2. swap out the existing switch for a mains powered Switch which does not control the current

But again, read the FAQs first, they should help. :sunglasses:

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(Ron Talley) #5

No cost approach is to:

Cut the power to the circuit
Take off plate and switch
Wire nut the line and load
Reinstall dummy switch
Put cover plate back on
Resore power

Best solution is to use Smart Switches.


(Rich) #6

I agree… they also make switch locks which screw into the plate screws and keep the switch in either position:

Also other varieties


(Big Hoss) #7

I’ve got Decora switches… But that’s a pretty solid idea. Ugly, but solid…

I was looking for a more elegant solution, ugh… Oh well… I only need the switches blocked long enough to break the habits… Clear packing tape it is for now…


(Mike) #8

This is what I use. I just moved not too long ago and I have set up a couple of lights in the house with smart bulbs. I had to run neutrals to many switches in my house as it did not have them. But on some switches the smart bulbs worked well and were cheaper and easier than running new wire.

Even though I know not to turn off certain switches, I find myself reaching for them from time to time as I leave the room . These covers remind me not to.


#9

There are many different styles of switch locks. This one is almost invisible:

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Your local Home Depot will probably have several choices.


(Big Hoss) #10

Something like that would likely pass the “wife approved” test! Thanks!


(Glen King) #11

My wife turns off the switch that controls the Hue lights in the upstairs bathroom. Does this virtually every night.
Then she asks why the nice motion-based night light arrangement I did with them does not work. lol


(PPO16) #12

Like this: Turn on/off smart light bulb when physically off?

You’ll bearly find cheaper way :wink:


(Big Hoss) #13

Sort of the same idea as the clear packing tape, but boy does that make me happy I have Decora switches!


#14

I put some clear cellotape over the switch button, and its 95% invisible to the eye. I like this solution because sometimes i need to reset some of my bulbs, so i need to be able to turn the switches off and on. Forget my wife, a few times I have tried to turn switches off, just did it about 30 mins back lol :slight_smile:


(Big Hoss) #15

It doesn’t have to be much just a little tiny bit of resistance where it should move freely usually should be enough of a mental cue to say whoops that’s not what I wanted to do.


(Hal) #16

Amazon sells switch covers for strict Jewish families (not supposed to operate machinery on the Sabbath). For some reason these keep popping up on my Facebook feed


(DJAC) #17

Paintings. I have been using things like paintings, hanging planTs and even Floating shelves with ornaments that mark it. House looks much nicer and the lights are available when I need. It alp makes a person who is residing at the house remember not to switch them off