How Many Devices of Each Type Do You Have? Zwave, Zigbee, Matter

SmartThings V3 Hub.
2 Matter of Wifi
35 Zigbee
25 ZWave
16 Virtual Switches

And I have at least 5 things that are Zigbee and Zwave I’ll be ordering in the near future. This doesn’t include all of the wifi integrations. Switchbot, Ring, Bosch Dishwasher…etc. It’s been super reliable and stable since I bought the hub in 2020, way more than the when I had Wink.

I use the JSmartApp to see the devices so I didn’t have to count
It’s under Status/Drivers.

Just curious how many things others have in SmartThings.

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There are now limits of either 200 or 300 devices per location (not per hub), and it’s a limitation in the app so it doesn’t matter what protocol it is, they all apply to the limit, including the virtual devices. Basically, if it has a device tile, it falls under the limit. That said, this limit has been applied differently at different times, sometimes there are workarounds, sometimes it’s different on different phone operating systems. Sometimes it goes away for a while, and then comes back, never with any announcements either way. So it’s been confusing.

At the time that it was first introduced, there were some community members who had around 400 devices. Since it’s been introduced, there are still several members that have between 250 and 300 devices.

At the same time, SmartThings staff have told us multiple times that the vast majority of SmartThings users (who are probably not in this forum, by the way) have 15 or fewer devices, and never use any custom code.

So, between those two parameters, there’s quite a wide spread. :sunglasses:

As for me, altogether I’ve got about 400 home automation devices, but most of them are not on SmartThings. I’ve got about 60 on SmartThings, a mix of protocols, except no zwave. I have three matter bridges: the SwitchBot hub two, and two aqara hubs. I do have about 20 Z wave devices, but I use them with a different platform now.

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V2 hub/US

  • Z-Wave - 101
  • Zigbee - 53
  • LAN - 144 (subset of these are virtual)
  • Edge-child (basically Hue devices via 3rd party driver) - 119
  • Viper - 26
  • Video - 3
  • OCF - 7
  • Hub - 2 (one is virtual)
  • Mobile - 1

No Matter stuff. Cannot see the point yet.

Briefly had a limit imposed on me some time back when trying to add a new device via my iPad (but not via an iPhone) that claimed 300 was the limit then it stopped. I continue to add new devices today with no issues.


UPDATED for some corrections and additions.

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The client apps can see a deviceLimit in the location data in the API and it is 300 for all my locations. Whether the number varies and what the client apps do with it is another matter.

    "deviceLimit": 300,
    "deviceVacancies": 298,
    "deviceCount": 2
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From a smartthings’ point of view, I’d say the most useful thing about matter is making an integration that was previously cloud based now local. Such as SwitchBot. I previously used the SwitchBot/SmartThings stock cloud to cloud integration. Now I use the stock Matter integration. Same devices, same routines, but now they run locally. :sunglasses:

Oh, and I also have some aqara Zigbee devices which I now Bring in to SmartThings via an aqara Matter bridge. Not only is this easier to pair, I don’t have the issue of the devices going “off-line“ from the SmartThings point of view all the time. And I can use them in the aqara app and the SmartThings app at the same time which gives me more features. So these were local before, but now they are more reliable.

But it’s very much a case by case evaluation. I prefer the stock non-matter Hue bridge integration, for example. :man_shrugging:t2:

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Wi-Fi Hub (Plume)

  • LAN=31 (mostly virtual devices)
  • Matter=4 (Wi-Fi and Thread)
  • OCF=3
  • VIPER=18
  • Mobile=2
  • Z-Wave=45
  • Groups=3
  • Hub=2 (1 physical and 1 appliance)

Counts from API Browser+

VIPER are cloud to cloud integrations in the smartthings architecture? Or “direct connected” WIFI integrations? I know it’s a SmartThings term, I just don’t remember exactly what it’s for.

Viper covers most c2c integrations. Samsung WiFi devices are generally OCF.
Lan covers virtual devices and WiFi devices with Edge Driver.

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Cloud to Cloud. Mine are mostly Ring cameras, Nest and EcobeeThermostats/Sensors, and Leviton switches/dimmers with a smattering of non-Samsung appliances.

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Okay, I’ll bite!

Greenview Hub (V2)

  • Z-Wave: 32
  • Zigbee: NONE
  • Matter: NONE
  • Virtual Devices: 13

Sandy Pines Hub (V2)

  • Z-Wave: 15
  • Zigbee: NONE
  • Matter: NONE
  • Virtual Devices: 7

Essentially a Z-Wave shop with all Devices & most Automations running local and reliably. :sunglasses:

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It’s better known as the ‘Schema’ cloud to cloud integration.

Some users may have an ‘ENDPOINT_APP’ integration. That’s when you do the integration using a SmartApp. Apart from a couple of Todd’s web requestor devices, all my virtuals are ‘VIRTUAL’. SmartTags are ‘BLE_D2D’. There’s ‘MQTT’ of course.

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Ngl, I’ve been trying to exclusively stick to Matter-Supported devices (First Matter-Over-WiFi & Now more recently I’ve introduced Matter-Over-Thread)

7-8 Devices for my room (mainly plugs and lights) so far with 3-4 devices that can act as Hubs in preparation for expanding. Waiting on Samsung’s Smartthings Multi-Hub feature to expand to more devices first though

Ive added My Home Assistant Hub via Z-Wave though