The link was already posted but if you missed it:
Itâs true that the boingboing article says if you support echo you canât also support google home. But that particular blog article is thirdhand. The original statement was made in a closed-door session. An article was written about that in a way which wouldâve allowed for either the A) or B) interpretations I mentioned above, Then other people read that article and started writing as though the original statement had been only the A) interpretation ( which is definitely buzzier, but that doesnât make it true).
In other words, including the Alexa Voice Service in a third-party device with its own speaker, like nucleus intercom, is very different than supporting integration with Echo.
I agree that the article you linked to says âsupporting echo.â Iâm just not sure that itâs an authoritative source as itâs one of those thirdhand articles.
As @DITPL says, weâll find out tomorrow, so thereâs no point in worrying over it today.
BoingBoingâs source for this was a Variety article. In that original article is this quote:
At the meeting in June, Google is said to have told home audio vendors that they wonât be allowed to add any other digital assistants than Googleâs own to their hardware if they want to continue to use Google Cast.
That is pretty much exactly what @JDRoberts was saying.
Original Link:
Google Home Strategy Aims to Use Chromecast to Beat Amazon Echo
I didnât miss that, nor is that something that âGoogle wroteâ.
Iâm going to add a 3rd, more likely scenario (in my mind)
We know that Google are working with 3rd party manufacturers to add in Google Home support to things like Sonos (with a mic + speaker)
Iâm suspecting that this relates only to hardware. Ie, if Sonos make an Echo type device, it can only integrate with Google Home or Amazon Alexa. Google wonât allow both.
If Google went ahead and said your product can only integrate with Google, then it canât integrate with Alexa, theyâd be shooting themselves in the foot and im not even sure thatâd be possible.
Itâd affect everything from SmartThings, Nest, Hue etc. Itâd also mean that Google would have to monitor all 3rd party applications for Home and then ban them if they allow Alexa support. Thatâll never happen
Ok, how about this.
Me: turn on kitchen. A: Ok, (kitchen light is switched on).
Me: kitchen light on. A (not verbatim): Canât find a device or group named light.
If it had natural language processing it would detect that I want a light on and would guess that light or group name is kitchen.
2 minutes to go until the big annoucement
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Ok, how about this.
Me: turn on kitchen. A: Ok, (kitchen light is switched on).
Me: kitchen light on. A (not verbatim): Canât find a device or group named light.
If it had natural language processing it would detect that I want a light on and would guess that light or group name is kitchen.[/quote]
Youâre confusing language processing with deduction. In the 2nd example youâve given it a command to turn on a device named âkitchen lightâ that doesnât exist. Itâs not failing to do what you want because itâs performing rigid phrase matching and you are using words in the wrong order. Indeed, it would have worked just fine if youâd said, âKitchen onâ, âTurn the kitchen onâ, etc. The problem is that youâve given the device you want to control one name and are attempting to refer to it by another.
Youâre grasping at straws here.
ActuallyâŚ
Alexa does know âlightâ as a device class meaning âhome automation deviceâ and back in March when there was a minor glitch with device names Amazon support actually recommended adding the word âlightâ to requests to make sure that echo knew you were making a home automation request and not a Music request.
I just tested mine saying âAlexa, kitchen light onâ (verbatim) and it turned it on just fine, even though the device name is just âkitchen.â
IIRC, The poster having difficulty with echo commands is a recent purchaser. There is an option in the Alexa app to do voice training, and we have found that it does make a big difference for some people. We have three housemates. One of the three of us had to do voice training before the echo had much accuracy.
In addition, there is an option under settings/history in the Alexa app to correct any individual command where echo misunderstood you. We have used this over the year and a half that weâve had echo, and again, I think it has made a difference.
So my first suggestion to any new Echo/Dot purchaser is that you do the voice training through the app and then if you continue to have problems use the settings/history to correct it. If it doesnât significantly improve within a week or so, it may just not be something you want to use. But I would try the available improvement features before giving up.
Google is live streaming the release of GH, Pixel phone. Itâs very similar to how Apple releases products. I think missed the GH portion or they havenât started it yet.
Here we goâŚ
Itâs official. SmartThings integration is on.
yup, and the big one over Alexa: use Home to control your Chromecast. edit: lame, only with YouTube out of the gate.
Looks like I know what my next product will beâŚ
Anyone want to purchase Google Home for me and get the opportunity to beta test the new release I am planning
oh snap, multi-room audio if you have several Home devices. $129
Key features:
Has Google Assistant
Can be touched to turn on also
Music sources include play music, youtube, spotify, pandora, tunein, but no mention of amazon prime music as expected
Search features, of course
Daily briefing
Partners include Nest, ST, Phillips Hue, IFTTT
Need chromecast to play videos, photos on tv, soon to include Netflix on chromecast
voice control to speakers with chromecast audio
Multi-room support
$129 pre-order today in Best Buy, Target, Nov 1 in other retail stores.
Hmmm to cancel my dots or not. Pretty tempting to switch.
I was trying to keep quiet about it and let yâall know once it was announced, but clearly thereâs a leak somewhere.
<.< >.>

In the same boat, in the same boat⌠cancel the 6 dots?
If you consider Google live streaming a leak then yea thereâs a big leak.
I just want to say once again, having a device name that you canât, well, Google is incredibly annoying.
Trying to find a Best Buy page for this thing is impossible. Iâm guessing itâs not there yet, but thereâs no way to google and find out!