Frustrated with ST!

[rdelavega (Someday my dog will be automated)]

I was actually asking @sidjohn1 about the presence sensor. I don’t want to hijack your thread though.

If you do feel like venting about the ST complexity, you can use this thread were it has already been discussed.

SmartThings starting to feel like Homeseer?

I have several friends who are interested in SmartThings because they have echo and want to expand those capabilities. These are technically savvy people, what I call “second adopters.” They already use IFTTT. They don’t mind some set up, but they have busy lives and they don’t want to tinker or go to the forums to figure out how to do something. They are expecting echo-type simplicity and they’re obviously not getting it. None of them are going to the “marketplace” tab because they assume that that’s where they would find add-ons for purchase. It doesn’t make sense to them that you go to the marketplace to set up a device you already own. None of them can figure out the lighting wizard. It’s OK as they set up the very first rule, but then they don’t understand what to do if they want …