Does ANYONE like the new smart things app?

I don’t know if SmartThings has an official definition (some companies do, some companies don’t) , but they have said multiple times In the past that their typical customer has less than 15 devices and doesn’t use any custom code. They’ve also defined anyone who used the IDE as a “developer.”

So a “power user” in that context would be someone who uses any custom code.

If you only use the built in features of the app and you have less than 15 devices, you would not be a “power user.”

But barring an official definition, it’s all pretty subjective.

As far as what power users get, there are three different categories:

  1. More devices. Whether it’s being able to use multitap with a Homeseer switch or being able to have different chime sounds for different events from a dome siren, there are many advanced features and specific devices which require custom code to work with SmartThings. Custom Code would let you add the Ring Keypad to your smartthings set up, which is a really nice device for which there is no official ST equivalent. :sunglasses:


  1. much more complex rules. (For this purpose, even though it’s not technically custom code, using the rules API would definitely make you a power user)
  1. use of third-party apps for many different applications, such as @rboy ‘s lock manager , ActionTiles and SharpTools for custom dashboards, for integration with dumb hardwired sensors, etc. these may also be able to substitute for functionality which is region locked in the new app. For example, guest code lock management in the official features is only available in some regions, but @rboy ‘s lock manager doesn’t have this issue.

Essentially power users extend their base smartthings system so they can do more with more devices. Whether that’s worth any potential headaches is an individual question, but it’s been one of the distinguishing features of smartthings for the past five years. It was pretty easy for anyone willing to ask for help from the community to create complex rules using dozens of different devices from different brands.

There were other systems out there that also supported this level of complexity, but most of them required that the individual person have a strong technical background. That includes Home Assistant, Homeseer, and Hubitat.

The really cool thing about smartthings was the platform made it very easy for non-technical people to just copy and paste Solutions provided by others and then use them with their own accounts, while still offering basic functionality through the app.

That doesn’t mean that everybody can or should add this level of complexity to their own systems, but the fact that they could was pretty amazing.