Bali Motorized Blinds Power Supply Specs

I have a couple of these. I have 300+ devices in the house (yea, I’m crazy). Battery management has become a huge issue for me, so I’ve been converting any sensor I can to wired. Mostly motion sensors, water sensors, floor vents, blinds, and one smart lock (never again will I get locked out).

The one I posted a picture of is really expensive now for some reason. Like $75. I only paid $45. It is 12V, 30A. I’m replacing it because it has a fan and where it is, I can hear it. I’m replacing it with this one which I ordered yesterday. It is only 20A, but that is more than enough. On the one I have my blinds on, I only have 4 blinds, 1 smart lock, 2 floor vents, and one open spot.

Most of the sensors require 3.3v, not 12 volts so I use a step down module to convert the 12 volts to 3.3 volts.

You can find those modules pretty easy for 3.3 volts or 5 volts. If you need something else like 6.5 or 7 volts, you can get something like this and dial in an output voltage.

Interestingly enough, the Keen vents, even though they take 4 AA batteries which is normally 6 volts (when in series), they are actually wired up as 2 AA x 2 AA in parallel, so 3.5 volts… So I could use the same converter as I do my motion sensors.

This isn’t the best picture, but those converters fit right inside the sensor.

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That is awesome in regards to the step down modules. Been meaning to that for my presence sensor in the cars. Those things eat up batteries and when it gets cold out forget it.

What is the brand of your 12V 30A power supply?

CCTV Power Supply 18CH Channel Port Box, LETOUR Distributed Power Supply Output 12V 30 Amp, for CCTV DVR Security System and Cameras

ok thanks! I finally got this one :

And it trigger 7 of my blinds at the same time without any hesitation. Amazing.

Hi All,

Just purchased two Monoprice 8 channel power supplies to control all the motorized Bali blinds in our home. I was wondering if anyone had pictures of setting up the micro USB cables to the power supply (so I make sure I don’t screw it up)? Thanks!

I just took the battery case and clipped the USB wire. I think it only has positive and negative cables if I remember correctly.

You can either clip the cable from the battery pack that they force you to buy and will never use or you can just order “usb micro male power pigtail” cables from eBay or the likes. Micro USB is the current (2021) connector used - I have some older (2016 vintage) identical shades that used Mini USB and didn’t realize they had updated the connector to Micro, ack! I am sure that at some point they will change it to USB-C. This was the only major problem I had setting all this up (see below).

All USB cables since USB was created are the same wiring inside - it’s just the shape of the connector on the end that differs. Really, there is zero special about the cable required here other than it does not need the data wires - just the power and ground. One thing of note that is different is that anything USB runs off of 5v but this runs off of 12v so even though it is the same wires it isn’t technically USB voltages.

I figure I should share my setup for anyone looking to do this for the Roman Shades and double-hung windows - so if you’re using a different shade/window you might have to adjust slightly. I looked at the alarm/CCTV panel solutions that many have used on this thread but for whatever reason they charge a huge premium for basically a metal box and a power supply (WTF!). Thanks to @barrios35 for the idea!!

The premise I had was that each room would have its own wiring and power supply that was fed off of the circuit for the room as opposed to a single box for everything. I think this makes sense as you don’t have a single point of failure for the whole house and it avoids having to have a lot of long runs from a central point - something that is a real-world factor with DC power supplies (and why everything is AC I’ll just add). Another factor is load and wall ratings - wire is cheap so buying bigger wire makes sense and you definitely want wire that is rated for in-wall use (think fire code).

Here’s what I used for a room with 5 shades:

These power supplies are available in a wide variety of specs - I chose one that would take the peak demand for all 5 shades (5 shades @ 2.1A peak so 12A) and I am sure it is way overkill but the cost is so low it’s not worth thinking about. They also have an adjustable voltage +/- some range around the nominal rating (12v for this model).

I have basement access to the room and was doing a complete gut so installation wasn’t that bad. Here’s the basic steps I took:

  1. Wire a 120v AC outlet in a rafter location near the windows or whatever is convenient. Per NEC, this outlet must be accessible/serviceable later.
  2. Mount and connect DC power supply (recommend putting this in a NEMA-1 enclosure for safety)
  3. Run cable to each window, drilling holes using a 1/4" bit. At the window, put a hole about 4" down from the top of the frame on the right side and as close to the window as you can go (to avoid interfering with the shade and so nothing is visible). You could put the hole anywhere technically but this is the closest location to the shade’s short power cord.
  4. Strip, solder, and heat shrink in the USB connectors and use the spade connectors at the power supply
  5. I was redoing the woodwork anyhow so I installed new stops and cut a small rectangular hole for the power cable which I think gives a nice clean look.

Here’s a few pictures I took…

Power Supply installed and wires to each window:

Power Supply enclosed in the TRC Enclosure (from a different room/shades):

Window with pigtail cable soldered with heat shrink:

Final look all connected up with window stops replaced:

What it looks like from the room:

Note that I originally got the wrong USB connector since they changed the connector at some point from Mini USB to Micro USB so I had to buy some mini-to-micro adapters - what a bummer as it’s wicked ugly. But, this is all pretty invisible so I might just leave it, we’ll see.

Can some one tell me if a regular micro usb extension cable is wired correctly to extend move further away the 12v battery pack for the blind motor. I realize it is probably just a positive and a negative wire. But dont know how the rest of the wires inside a usb are wired.
Like a standard phone to phone cord ?

They should be standard. A quick google will show you the pin out.

What I am not sure if the shades are wired to standard. I want to say they are too.

If you have a multi meter you can test.

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My guest would be the same. An extension would work just fine.

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Great, i have a couple showing up tomorrow. Guess I’ll just plug it in and see. Thanks

I have 3 Bali Somfy motorized blinds with battery packs. I bought a 12v 10 amp changing power supply off Amazon. I cannot get it to power the blinds when I plug in it just blinks orange and doesn’t work.

I’ve tested with volt meter and 12 v are coming out and 10 amps are coming out.

I’ve used micro usb spliced and also connected it to the empty battery pack with no luck.

Any suggestions?

Which power supply are you using…can you post the link?

If it’s not the Mean Well or similar, it probably isn’t designed to be a driver but just a guess.

-Warren

I have this one to power 8 pretty big blinds.
Have you ever make them work with a battery pack ?

Well, that one looks like a Mean Well knockoff so it should be fine.

It should be working, assuming you have good solid connections. Offhand, I can only suggest some basic things which you probably have already checked, like:
-On the AC feed: Hot (black/small prong) goes to L, Neutral (white/wide prong) goes to N, and Ground (green/bare) goes to GND
-On the DC load: Red goes to V+, Black goes to V-
-You have each shade connected in parallel such that all shades go directly to V+ and V- as opposed to feeding each other (series).

You mentioned that you measured 12VDC from the terminals of the Alitove but I wasn’t sure how you measured the amps since this should never be 10A unless it is under full load maxed out. At rest it should be like a small number of mA at best.

The only other thing to keep in mind is that DC connections don’t do well with resistance so I would check the open ohms of the cable by disconnecting it from the power supply and ensuring that it is a) not short circuited (infinite ohms) and b) has little to nil ohms resistance from the end of the red wire to the USB mini V+ and the same from the end of the black wire to the USB V-. If there is an R value then it could be the cable. With DC connections long cables are a real problem as the resistance of the wire can affect things quickly.

Thank you Warren

I’m ordering a mean well and also checking the wire as you described. The cable run is about 10 feet.

I believe the amp number was a small number and it could have been 10ma and I just assumed it was amps. I’ll re measure.

Also, since I only have 3 blinds side by side…
What if I ordered 3 of these?
12V 2A Power Supply AC Adapter, AC 100-240V to DC 12 Volt Transformers, 2.1mm X 5.5mm Wall Plug (12 Volt - 2amp - 2pack) Amazon.com

Would this work?

I would think that power supply would work. 8 AA batteries would not be able to push 2A so that should be more than enough for 1 shade. I guess it depends on if you have plugs and so on in the rooms. FWIW, the thing that Somfy will sell you is basically this (albeit for $75) with a micro USB on the end of it.

I wanted the Mean Well because I didn’t want to have a bunch of stuff plugged in and wanted to do it in the wall and basement as in my post at the top. 10’ length of good quality wire should be OK from power supply to device (assuming all are in parallel, 10’ each run). More than 25’ could be an issue but it depends on the resistance of the wire.

I do have well over 25 feet of wire from my power supply to each blind (1 cable per blind ) and it’s working. The wire are standard speaker wires

Did you try adjusting the voltage out? I think it may need just a bit more than 12vdc.