do you have any with integrated motion sensor?
Hey Tony,
Great question - currently we donāt, but itās a good idea and we can explore it. I canāt promise it will be in our new switches (at least the ones weāre developing) but itās something weāre exploring for some other products.
The thing with the switches and motion sensors is that personally I just donāt like the look of them. However, the team can definitely veto my preferences
My reasoning is that we want to make a switch that blends in with other switches in the house and I think it would be overkill to have all motion sensor switches.
I believe GE makes some and I swore Zooz was coming out with some (or has already, Iām not sure).
I think if we were to do it on our switches, we could put it in our remotes, Iām just not sure how that would affect battery life.
Thoughts?
Alright, I figured out what was wrong with the repository. The files needed to be moved into a sub-directory because SmartThings is very picky about that.
IIRC, theyāll be showing those at CES.
Fantastic, Iāll be sure to check them out too! Theyāve been innovating like crazy lately, which is awesome ā awesome to see them pushing S2 as well, great technology.
The switches in my IDE are brown now. I donāt see the files for the NZW30 anymore.
I think you just need to click on it and then click āsaveā.
Edit: āThe save that is next to the publish buttonā
If they are obsolete then you should probably update them to the newer version. You can also change the NZW31 handlers over to the Inovelli repo by either checking the checkbox in the screenshot you posted and publishing, executing, and assigning it to the device.
Or you can copy and paste the code over the top of your current NZW31 handlers and do the couple of tricks weāve discussed in this thread.
Thatās weirdā¦after installing the NZW31 files, now the NZW30 files show up and itās black in the IDE.
Heh, computersā¦
Well an additional switch that has motion would be a win! It would be more discreet than an additional motion switch for security or motion lighting. Also I have to spend at least $60 on two z wave devices for this currently and still have to change batteries in the motion sensor. Would prefer Inovelli or Zooz than GE.
For motion sensors⦠Would it be possible to make an IR-transparent paddle and hide the sensor behind it?
@Eric_Inovelli, curious on if the form factor of the latest switch hardware is getting any smaller, or a new location of the ground screw?
Maybe itās just the cheap gang boxes my builder put in the house, or my inefficient re-cramming of wires back into the gang box, but my nzw30 seems to catch on that ground screw. Also putting 2 of these in a 3 gang box created a frontplate bulge.
Good point! Something to consider for sure. Iāll run it by the team
Yeah, weāre trying to get the form factor smaller. At first I thought it was the Z-Wave module that was causing the depth of the switch to be so large, but it turns out itās the relay that causes the depth. However, itās something weāre looking at. From personal experience, itās been a pain to have the switches so deep bc my house is actually older (1966) and it had all metal boxes in it, causing me to have to rip those out (on the positive side, I learned how to fix drywall haha).
Weāre also looking at the ground screw placement as well ā Iāve heard this complaint before and itās definitely something we want to address.
As for the putting two side by side, have you removed the heat sink tabs (there are six total⦠three on each side)? If you remove those, the switches will fit perfectly side by side. To do that, you can take a pair of needle nose pliers and wiggle them until they break off. For the On/Off switches, it will have no affect on performance. For Dimmer switches, if you remove one side, it will drop the amount of Wattage the switch will be able to handle from 500W to 400W and if you remove both sides, it will drop the Wattage to 300W.
Iāll PM you too ā curious on your thoughts of the design. Iād post it here, but donāt want to tip my hat quite yet (this goes for anyone else, if youāre curious on the design, Iām happy to share ā Iāll post it publicly once weāre closer to finalizing).
Have a great day!
Installing the Zooz, GE and Inovelli switches there is a constant issue I have run into with the break off heat sink tabs. They leave a little bit of metal behind and it is just enough to not be able to fit 2 of them next to each other in a 2 gang mud ring. I always have to grind them down with a file or grinder to get them to fit.
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Being able to control a ceiling fan - mine is just on/off, but most switches say lights only. (donāt remember if yours do)
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Why even make non-dimmable ones? some sort of enable/disable action in the switch itself instead of second product.
2.1) same with scene control. great feature, anyone without it is missing out, or will be someday when they change hubs -
As someone said before, a smaller footprint inside the box would be great. Mine were a bit of a struggle
Existing feature: being able to remap the initial switch action has been great. Never lose that.
I have over 100 switches in my home, mostly GE but a few Zooz and Inovelli, and I have never had to do this. Maybe itās how they are removed? I use large electrician pliers to remove mine.
What are the odds either Zooz or Inovelli will come out with a black coloured switch?
The GE colored paddles are super expensive. I shudder to think about the cost if I didnāt want white in my house.