Using the classic app, I have an automation to automatically turn on certain lights ( garage lights).
Additional settings are: Automatically turn ON when something opens (garage door opens).
I want the lights to only stay on a fixed time (say 10 minutes), but there appears to be no other option available that would allow me to do this…is there a way to turn the lights back off after a fixed time?
EDIT: I should add that I have one other setting enabled: this automation is not enabled if it is DAY mode.
Are you trying to replicate in the new app cause that will do it. I don’t see an easy way with Classic without using a custom SmartApp.
EDIT: Actually you should try to use the new app now since Classic is going away.
You should be able to do this with an Automation. You IF conditions would be garage door sensor opens AND your mode, and your THEN would be to turn on the light with auto off in 10 minutes: (replace my Home mode with your Day mode)
I noticed a post about enhancements to the new app and I think I heard about classic app going away.
If I switch won’t I lose a lot of functionality?
At least it used to be that the new app was lacking a lot of features in the classic app I thought.
There have been a lot of improvements, but losing functionality depends upon your setup. If you use custom device handlers, then the new app will struggle showing you the same tiles for that device, but the capabilities are still there for us with smartapps and some automations. It also depends on what SmartApps you may be using, especially ones that control Smart Home Monitor (now called SmartThings Home Monitor - STHM in the new app).
Depending on how complex your setup is, you may not get notified right away to migrate, but if you’re pretty much “out of the box”, you may move faster than others. I’ve got a large ST implementation with custom apps and device handlers, but I’ve moved (manually). It’s not a simple process, and there were things in Classic (custom SHM rules for example) that did not easily “map” to the new app. I had to use a combination of Scenes and Automations (sometimes 2 or 3) to do what 1 custom SHM rule did in Classic, but it is doable.
If you use your phone(s) as presence sensors, they work, but they do not show up in your list of devices.
You can use both apps at the same time, but I do not recommend setting up STHM or phone presence because you will not like the experience. Since it’s been a while since you’ve caught up on this Classic/new app topic, I don’t recommend you try moving over yet until 1) ST notifies you, or 2) you read up on a few discussions about the topic so you know what to do and what to (or not to) expect. Here’s a good starting point:
I know that’s a large discussion to digest, but there’s valuable info in there, as well as links to other similar discussions.
OK thanks … I think I can wait for now.
I don’t recall if I have any custom stuff: maybe 1 or 2…I forget offhand!
I will ride out the limitation for the moment.
Is there a hard cut off date by which everyone would have been advised to switch?
Another approach could be installing your automation using the Rules API. Using them, you can migrate the automations smoothly.
Below you can find an example, the workflow is:
IF the door is opened
THEN turn ON the specified devices (which could be lights, smart plugs, and others)
Thanks … that doesn’t look too bad!
But is there any site that explains the syntax rules?
The one qualification I would need to add is to only act at night (mode is NIGHT).
In the old app go to Smart Apps and install Smart Lighting you can then set the device to go off after a certain length of time if you set it up under power allowance. I have one set so whenever the smart button activates the Wemo plug it times out and switches off after 4hrs.