The End of Groovy Has Arrived

With all this talk of a memory shortage, maybe it would be good if ST considered releasing SmartThings OS that we can install on a raspberry Pi/ mini PC / mac mini / NAS so we can add as much memory and more RAM as needed.

Yes i suppose its kind of (definitely) ripping off HA but it would give us much more flexibility.

Would potentially be quicker than designing/building and releasing a new hub unless anyone knows of one in the pipeline?
Infant didnt Aeotec have a Zigbee or Zwae Usb dongle? I wonder if that could be built on?

@SmartThings

Won’t ever happen. They need the information on thier clients for any of this to be remotely cost effective for them if they’re not charging for access.

Going to roll your own like HA would eliminate that from thier ecosystem.

I think also that, as a giant global corporation, Samsung would not want to have any legal liability for weird things that happened with someone running a licensed copy of their software. Even if it was totally not their fault, the odds of their getting sued are very high.

I know that when IBM first started getting interested in Linux freeware it made the business decision to acquire Red Hat and run it as an independent subsidiary, in part to limit any legal liability to that subsidiary.

So I suppose Samsung could set up a SmartThings foundation as an independent group to distribute licensed OS freeware, it’s just hard to see what their motivation to do so would be. :thinking:

@nathancu

Hi! Drivers in the Default Channel are installed only when a device is paired and no compatible driver already installed was found.

Has the same problem, about 100 devices create it (i did a factory reset, and install about 100 from my 250 devices). Blue led. Hab v3.

The V2 hub has double the memory and processing power than the V3. The V3 was a serious downgrade just to gain wifi connectivity.

My biggest concern is if my v2 dies, its not as if they are easy to find these days, im all for a super ST hub, a modern version of v2 produced by Samsung

Totally agree

Would that not be the time for a system change?

If i were to change systems the new system hub would need to be priced the same as an equivalent ST hub, not involve a Pc and a phone Ui that matches the ST Ui or better… preferably better

For me and my very long experience of Tech, Samsungs track record has been very good, for 20yrs i was an all in Microsoft fan boy, i got burned multiple times from hardware and software, Samsung on the other hand have given me reliability and quality

I get that. I tried HA and whilst the compatibility is in another league, the remote access and ease of use just isn’t. Plus St has Zwave and Zigbee. The hub is low powered and I still can’t understand ppl being open to running multiple systems especially considering energy prices.

Probably for another thread…

Has anyone experienced the automatic migration of devices from groovy to edge yet? I check every day to see if my devices are already migrated.

This is brilliant! I love thinking outside the ā€œSmartthingsā€ box.

I started seeing some yes. It seems so far mostly leak sensors and a water valve. And randomly one z-wave motion sensor and one zigbee plug. That was a couple days ago and don’t think anything else since. Not sure what the actual process is.

What happens if you delete a driver that is in use?

Will a warning appear? I don’t really want to test.

It doesn’t allow you to delete if it is in use.

You can unsubscribe from a developer’s channel with their Driver still installed. Doing so will prevent any Driver updates being pushed to your hub.

I haven’t seen anything migrate on its own. Oct 15th was 7 days ago. Dec 31st is 2+ months away. Guess it’ll happen sometime between now and then. Would be nice to have a narrower migration time line as things will be need to fixed and adjusted as they get migrated I’m sure. Some more frustrations from another ST user but that’s to be expected at this point.

Yes. A few SmarrThings motion sensors.

Agreed. I’ve had nothing migrated yet. A few I onboarded within the past month or so show placeholder, but nothing moved. My concern is what won’t migrate, I’d like to have some time to address before the plug gets pulled.