Popp wireless z-wave switch (4 button)?

[JDRoberts]

@John_Crighton

I’m fairly new here, and quite new to Z-Wave so finding my feet a little. I bought one of these to control our bedside lights: Brands - Popp – Vesternet

…So, I disjoined the lights from ST and managed to hook them up to the switch as a primary controller (which works very well on its own, on/off/dim all work). I then set about entering the button sequence to migrate to another primary controller, and told ST to find a new thing, but nothing happens.

I can’t see this controller mentioned anywhere else, am I being a bit ambitious in trying to get it to work?

The problems you’re running into because it’s a scene controller, not just a button controller. And it’s using Z wave specific scene controls.

Because SmartThings is a multiprotocol platform it doesn’t want its customers to have to know whether a device is zigbee or Z wave. So it just doesn’t use the built-in Z wave scene controller functionality.

I Think the best thing at this point would be for you to read the two recent threads on light controls available for the UK.

After that people can help you work on a device type for this specific switch if you want. There is a UK community member working on a device type for one of the Z wave.me similar switches, but he doesn’t have it finished yet. Following his process would probably help you a lot, though.

So, I would encourage you to take the following three steps. These are all clickable links that will take you to discussion threads.

One) read the FAQ on lighting controls currently available to UK customers.

VFAQ: Lighting Control Options for UK SmartThings

There are many forum discussions of possible lighting control options for the UK. Before we get too theoretical, I just wanted to do a quick recap of the options that are available right now for those in the UK. 1) Choose one of the inside-the-wall micro relays from the official compatibility list and have it installed on the circuit where there is a third wire. Even if there isn’t a third wire in the switchbox itself, there’s still one on the circuit somewhere. It may be at the ceiling fitting, it may be somewhere else in the wall, but it is there. https://www.smartthings.com/uk/compatible-products [image] If you want to add a new faceplate to create a push button “momentary switch,” you can modify many switches to work with the in wall relay. Plastic button front plates are quite…

Two) read the couple of posts that are the technical discussion regarding multibutton zwave switches that use scene control

Light Switches - where to start? (UK)

If they use the standard switch protocol for z-wave then in theory the switch should pair as a generic z-wave switch and most if not all functionality should be there. If it doesn’t follow the standard but it used standard clusters then a device type can easily be written. If it uses nothing that is standard, welllllll shame on them.

Three) glance over the work that’s being done on the Z wave.me switch type

Wireless Wall Switch (ZME_WALLC-S) to control Smartthings devices and routines

Hi Smartthings Community, I have recently bought the Smartthings hub, and am trying to create a new device type. The device that I would like to add is the Z-Wave Secure Wall Controller made by ZWave.Me. It is a battery operated device that has 4 buttons. The buttons can be used individually or as part of dimmer sets. The device doesn’t actually do anything other than have these buttons that can be used either to control zwave devices or scenes. This is very very similar to the Aeon Minimote which Smartthings comes ready to connect to. The only differences is the modes of operation, the fact that this is a z-wave plus device and the form factor which makes this ideal to place on a wall. Here is some more technical info on the device: http://www.vesternet.com/downloads/dl/file/id/279/…

Trying to go the secondary controller route is unlikely to give you the results you want, again because that’s utilizing zwave–specific functions and the SmartThings architecture just doesn’t tend to support those kinds of solutions.

If you started with the popp switch as the primary, and moved things over, you might end up with a situation where the physical switch buttons would control the lights you wanted, but their status would never get updated to smartthings which causes a bunch of other issues. I’m not saying it’s impossible to work around, I just think you’ll get better results with the approaches outlined in the links above.

Good luck and welcome! The community has done a great job of developing device types for many different devices which have to work a little differently in the SmartThings environment. But that environment is what lets us mix Zigbee and zwave devices in the same “scene”, so most people are very happy once they get it set up. Or if they only use devices that already have existing device types.