Orbi vs Google vs Eero

@BBoy486
I recently purchased the Orbi system and love it. Check out reviews of all the products before you buy to get the system that is right for you.

Brian

I have google wifi. I got the 3 puck set at best buy on sale. My internet is great with it. I have one puck as my main router. It connects to my ISP and then also connects to a 8 port GigE switch for the homes wired network. The second puck is attached to the homes wired ethernet and provides a wired connection a a streamer (Nvidia shield) the last puck is completely running wireless to the other two, but has two computers connected to it. It acts like a wifi card for those computers and then is a mesh for devices near it as well.

I have been very impressed with it so far and I love the fact no more seperate networks for 2.4 and 5ghz networks.

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What do you mean no separate networks

Allot of home network gear that allows both 2.4ghz and 5ghz bands need them to run on seperate SSID’s. That is why you see allot of default setups that show something like xxxxxx and xxxxxx_5g.

The Google wifi doesn’t do that.

But certain devices don’t run on 5ghz so don’t you need both so you can choose?

I did but they don’t talk about Zigbee mesh and wifi interference.

@BBoy486
Not with google wifi. It makes them both avaliable and devices connect to what is best for them at the time. I have a mix of 2.4 and 5ghz devices and they all connect fine. And both frequencies are avaliable

The TP-Link Deco M5 mesh system works in the same way. Devices choose which frequency they want to join. It works well for me.

I have noticed that there seems to be a new Deco M9 system on the way that acts as a Zigbee hub too.

First off most mesh systems require a active internet connection to configure and operate. Google and other just become dumb AP’s when the internet is down or their cloud service is not reachable. That is why I choose the Oribi system, I have a 3 node system and have it configured hub in spoke and has options for ethernet home runs and a to b to c chaining also.

Sites such as Wirecutter has said this is the best for most that have larger homes with dead spots. Here is the link:

That is a bit of a exaggeration isn’t it. The main difference between a router and a network switch/ap is simply some intelligence to run a few services like DHCP, DNS and Nat for your internal network. Those don’t and never should run remotely. A device connecting to the network should still see other devices on your local network even with the internet out.

You do lose the ability to change the configuration though. But then how often should we really be changing the configuration

You should review the comments on that article. There are allot of people unhappy with Orbi. Not saying it is any worse then others, but it is interesting reading reviews like that.

As I indicated in my previous post, each system has its own pros and cons. I chose the Orbi system simply because each satellite has 4 ethernet ports which I needed at least one port for my three Arlo base stations to get the strongest signals to my Arlo cameras. The system also has software to manage the settings, while simple, it gets the job done. I also liked the fact that I could either daisy chain or spoke pattern my router to satellite connections.
I have had no problems with either my Orbi systems or the Arlo cameras, even though if you read many of the reviews, you would think both systems are junk. They have worked as advertised for me.

Brian

Thanks for all the feedback. Still need to know how this works with the Zigbee band and any issues it might cause.

@BBoy486
The Orbi system, (and I assume the other systems are the same), are strictly Wi-Fi using the 5 Ghz and 2.4 Ghz frequencies. There is no Zigbee component to them and as such, there should be no issues. The Smartthings hub transmits and receives the Zigbee signals.

Brian

Brian thank you so much for your reply please scroll up to see the post I linked to where @JDRoberts explains on how Wi-Fi interferes with zigbee.

So my question is if anyone running orbi has had any issues with their zigbee devices.

@BBoy486
The Orbi system allows you to adjust the strength of each of the two frequencies, which is something one can experiment with while getting accustomed to their system. I currently have about 35 devices on my Smartthings hub, 8 Arlo cameras on 3 base stations, a Chromecast device and 2 cameras that stream 24/7 and I am not experiencing any troubles with any of my devices.

Brian

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Yeah, but the point is now about will the wifi work, but will the zigbee work with the extra radio frequency in the air.

The problem here is that there are allot of potential things that can cause interference with the 2.4ghz band. The more mesh you have the more potential you have to have problems. Keyword is potential.

Some mesh network systems try to take the guess work out. Google wifi attempts to do that for you automatically by scanning the environment and then picking the best places to operate with as little interference as possible. I would suggest you check on if whatever mesh you get has that feature at least.

The good thing for orbi is that its backhaul for the Mesh component is not on the 2.4ghz band. Honestly no mesh network should use 2.4 for backhaul. It is to congested already without thinking about zigbee and doesn’thave the ability for enough channels to get good bandwith… So then it is just a matter of do you have devices that.

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Thanks however none of those are Zigbee devices. That is the interference I am curious about. I’ll experiment when I get the system next week.

I also use google wifi, I had eero gen 1 as well, but have been much happier after making the hop to google’s pucks. 2 out of my 4 have ethernet to them, I have a large “L” shaped home, these things keep me on strong wifi inside and out.

Of my Smart things pieces i havea Osram zibgee RGB Bulb and Button switch, 2 Sengled Zigbee bulbs, a ADT Water sensor, Smart things Motion sensor, Visonic Door Sensor, and a Iris door sensor, a homebuilt DIY zigbee repearter environment sensor, and a KOF Fan controller. All of those are zigbee and have had no issues. So as far as what i have Google Wifi hasn’t hurt it at all. The only repeator devices i have is the osram bulb and the DIY repeater.

Not sure if that helps but it is atleast something

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Cool. Thanks