[OBSOLETE] SHM Delay Version 2.0

Hello! First, thanks to ArnB for setting this up. I’ve got almost all of it put together. However, worried about the motion sensors. I’ve checked quite a bit of this thread, but haven’t found the answer.

I’ve set up the simulated contact sensor, now the only sensor monitored by STHM. I’ve set up delay profiles as appropriate for the real contact sensors, all linked to that single simulated contact.

I have motion sensors as well. I have not found a way to set up a simulated motion sensor delay profile - only for contact sensors. If I remove from STHM to avoid an intrusion alert while the contact delay is in effect, it seems like they’re not monitored at all. Am I missing an app module? Or a step someplace? I want to make sure that the motion sensors still function. I’m sure I’ve just missed something.

Thanks again for any help. Let me know what you need to troubleshoot.

I know I’ve seen it around here, but how do you set a delay in the entry delay message? I’d like it to say you have 30 seconds to disarm SHM, 25 seconds to disarm, 20 seconds to disarm, etc. I know the %nn will pull the remaining time, but I can’t get it to pause in between. I think it was something like %wait 3600 or something along those lines.

Delay profile are created for contact sensors.

If the simulated motions are Konnected, they would be added to the delay profile for the contact sensor, and treated as real motions.

Use TTS SSML. I use it with the Fully Kiosk Browser Controller. Scroll down, the SSML info is near the end of the first post that also documents why {} instead of <>

I do not recommend an entry countdown, gives a thief too much information.

This is my Exit Delay countdown

{speak}Alarm system is arming in 30 seconds, please exit the facility. {break time=“1s”/} 25 seconds{break time=“2800ms”/}20 seconds{break time=“2800ms”/}15 seconds{break time=“2800ms”/}10 seconds{break time=“2800ms”/}5{break time=“700ms”/}4{break time=“700ms”/}3{break time=“700ms”/}2{break time=“700ms”/}1{/speak}

My Entry delay TTS
Disarm system, or police will arrive shortly

BTW Countdowns are problematic on ST due to cloud and internet delays. It works well on my local Hubitat system.

@arnb i appreciate all you do here to this community

i was able to set the Exit delay Via the automation tools built in with the new ST app by using a virtual switch and a automated rule to delay Arm Away when home mode is set away…

so although arming via the ST app it will arm instantly (which i dont really care about…if i can arm via the app i can do it outside the house…) but on the wall - tablet which i set up with @joshua_lyon Sharptools it does the the job…!

In terms of Entry Delay ST added a response delay in the new app which delays the Sirens and other responses and as long you disarm it within the response delay time set it wont trigger.

But now i need to get a sound on the tablet to remind me to disarm… i use Fully kiosk Browser … you mentioned something about using TTS SSML… can you advise ?

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Never mind i got it to work with your article here!!! thank you !!!


I am a tad confused. Are you saying this is the best way add a virtual contact sensor in ST New App and other methods don’t work? Thanks.

I am no longer on SmartThings, so I suggest following what has worked for other users.
From what I have read the standard virtual contact sensor does not work

Hi! The best way? I don’t know… I found this method to transmit the open/closed state to the simulated sensor in the STHM survey sensors field.
I think that others concepts can work also. Send us if other models works!

Thanks. I assume I install this code under Device Handler and do I publish it?

Exactly. The device is a hybrid sensor switch capability.

Hello. I know you are 100% Hubitat now. Could you tell me- when I arm system, then open door to Exit, should the Simulated Sensor display as open? My exit door shows open until I close it.

Normally the simulated contact sensor is closed, the app works if it’s open, but does not change the sensor’s state unless there is an intrusion.

When an intrusion is detected, the app closes the simulated sensor, then opens it setting SHM to intrusion status, then a few seconds later closes it.

Thanks. I set STHM to Away mode, open door to leave, close. I wait for re-entry to test it and when I open door, the Door sensor opens and no alarm. I keep the door open for a bit and nothing. I think I am expecting the Simulated Sensor to open to issue Intrusion - Is this correct?

I also tested Simulated Sensor by Arming system and opening it and the Alarm shows Intrusion Alert.

Thanks for your help.

I am going to try to leave Simulated Sensor as Open and try it that way.

I experienced the same thing. It worked flawlessly for a long time and then I started seeing exactly this. One of the many reasons why I finally left the Smartthings platform. I hope you can get it to work. I didn’t find an acceptable solution.

It should, however the system provided simulated sensor fails to function as expected in the new app. Please follow these directions for the simulated sensor DTH that is found by following the links in the Documentation section 8.

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Honestly I have yet to find a solution. I thought about Rboy app but you have to pay for that upfront and I would be pissed if it did not work. They should have like a 10 day trial period for example. I assume also that ActionTiles would not help as I delayed that too after this issue. I have to have the delay for the kids. I was planning to use Noonlight for remote monitor and assume they get notified as soon as the Intrusion Alerts. So that’s delayed too. It seems like a very basic thing for ST to fix. Blows my mind. I am getting closer and closer to abandoning ship too…

Thanks I’ll try that too…

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It’s a miracle !!! ST finally added a true delay to STHM. There is now a Delay Time to use under Set Response that works !! Just thought you would like to know.

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