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Moving soon--what should I set up now for local operation?

Im going to be moving to an 4 room apartment soon with my girlfriend and some friends of ours. At the time of this writing we wont have internet for awhile but all the room mates want to be able to control their lights and stuff with their cell phones (like I can right now) the day that we move in. They also want to use my motion sensor and open/close sensor as an alarm system. My question is is this possible without internet?

I know with the security system we wont be able to get notified of events or wont be able to unlock the door remotely but can we still control the lights and stuff without internet? If so how do you setup something like that

You won’t be able to do anything at all with your cell phone until the hub can talk to the Internet. That’s just the way the system is designed. The hub and the phone don’t talk to each other directly – – the phone talks to the cloud and then the cloud talks to the hub.

You likely can’t use the motion sensor as an alarm in the way that you are thinking of because there is no way to arm and disarm the system until you can talk to the cloud.

I know that doesn’t make any sense for security system. Smart things wasn’t initially designed as a security system, it was designed as a cloud-based home automation system. Other features were added in later, and they don’t quite work the way you would expect.

If you set things up now, the one thing you can do at the new apartment before the Internet is available is have a minimote turn some lights on and off. But by lights, they mean some specific Z wave switches using some specific device type handlers, or some of the pocket sockets. And the only smart app that will work is smart lighting, and then only if an individual automation is limited to devices that are eligible to run locally.

Phillips hue lights, echo, harmony, LIFX lights, Wemo devices, all require that the SmartThings cloud be available, which means Internet has to be available.

, And you can’t get any phone notifications without the Internet for the same reason you can’t use the mobile app to talk to the hub without the Internet

The good news is that you can set up things before you move, it’s just not very many things. And you can test it just by unplugging your hub from the Internet and making sure things work as you expect.

Assuming your sensors are eligible to run locally and you have a Light switch or pocket socket or siren eligible to run locally, you could you smart lights to have the sensor tripping turn on the siren or the light if that’s of any help. But make sure you have something set up using smart lights with a minimote or other sensor to turn it off again when you want to.

All of which is to say you aren’t going to get much functionality out of the system unless Internet is available.

If you can’t get wired internet straight away have you considered using 3G/4G? Get a wifi repeater with an Ethernet output, link wifi to a mobile device and Ethernet to the ST Hub.

You don’t need a particularly fast internet connection unless you are trying to stream CCTV through the hub. I doubt the hub uses much data either.

What this guy/gal says. Hands down the easiest way to get started. These things are cheap these days. Some hotspot devices even come with Ethernet now, depending upon which service you’ll end up getting any if there is a compatible model out there.

Otherwise, as mentioned, just get an Ethernet adapter.

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