[BRAINSTORMING] CoRE Integrations - ideas?

[scpickle (Sean)]

I figured so but it was worth a shot.
Besides you have already done so many things that seemed impossible.

[bobbles (Bob)]

Not sure if it’s for this thread but how about something for the Sonoff Wifi Switch.
This would have to be cloud to cloud though.
These are a very good device that you put in line for table lamps, fish tank Lights etc. and are as cheap as chips.
There is already a way to flash these to make them ST compatible but you need all the correct tools to do it.
Just my two pence worth.

[Mbhforum (Marc)]

How about some integration with Smarttiles and Sinple Device Viewer smartapps.
For example:

Automatically add devices based on type to dashboard

[SBDOBRESCU (Bobby)]

@JH1

Perhaps you can give us a weekly update thread to regain our confidence.

Yeah, @ady624, seriously. That’s unacceptable. I suggest getting @vlad to explain what happened in those two minutes…

[JDRoberts]

@bobbles

Not sure if it’s for this thread but how about something for the Sonoff Wifi Switch.
This would have to be cloud to cloud though.
These are a very good device that you put in line for table lamps, fish tank Lights etc. and are as cheap as chips.

Very cheap device, yes. “Very good device,” no, not from an engineering standpoint. Not UL or CE listed, and never could be. This will turn a grounded switch into a non-grounded switch, just as one example. If a fire starts in your home because of these, it’s likely your homeowners insurance will not cover it.

I know there are quite a few people using them, but there’s a reason they are as inexpensive as they are.

If you are using the EU zwave frequency, Swiid makes a truly good device of a similar form factor, well engineered with all the appropriate safety certifications. Of course it costs a good deal more.

Vesternet: Smart Home Automation - Z-Wave & Zigbee Products

[DinnerYeti (Josh)]

Yes to Tasker integration.

[Navat604 (R.)]

I second tasker integration. I know it’s for Android only but it’s such a beast.

[whoismoses (Eric)]

I might be missing something but I attempted to create a piston that notified me if a motion sensor stays inactive for 1 day. Max I could choose was 360 minutes.

Maybe in the next release allow us to enter a number and then pick a unit [“Seconds”, “Minutes”, “Hours”, “Days”]?

[eibyer]

I’m excited to see the beacon project. I want to put one on my dog so I know what’s she’s going to be chewing on next!

Me: Alexa, where is the dog?
Alexa: She seems to be about 20 feet away, in your room!
Me: Go get her!
Alexa: TOUCH!

[carmp3fan (Nathan H)]

I’d like to see something like the beacon project, but as a presence sensor. This could be done a few different ways. Open-source iPhone and Android apps that can:

1. Report GPS location to CoRE via HTTPS, or
2. Report when the app can communicate with SmartThings (or CoRE) locally over wifi, or
3. Report when the phone is connected to specific wifi networks and report that to CoRE.

To explain #3, my ST Hub is on a different VLAN from my mobile devices so depending on the type of communication, traffic in that case might not make it to the hub even if you are there.

IMO we need something that provides a consistent way of determining presence. Life360 is flaky, using the ST app means giving someone access to the entire environment, and the presence sensors are only Zigbee and are battery limited.

[JH1 (Never Trust @bamarayne)]

Just fyi, several folks are using scripts on their wifi routers to do that so when it sees the phone connect it turns on a virtual presence device, something along those lines.

One was using PTRG, others I think were using utilities on Asus routers.

[JDRoberts]

@carmp3fan

I’d like to see something like the beacon project, but as a presence sensor. This could be done a few different ways. Open-source iPhone and Android apps that can:

1. Report GPS location to CoRE via HTTPS, or
2. Report when the app can communicate with SmartThings (or CoRE) locally over wifi, or
3. Report when the phone is connected to specific wifi networks and report that to CoRE.

To explain #3, my ST Hub is on a different VLAN from my mobile devices so depending on the type of communication, traffic in that case might not make it to the hub even if you are there.

IMO we need something that provides a consistent way of determining presence. Life360 is flaky, using the ST app means giving someone access to the entire environment, and the presence sensors are only Zigbee and are battery limited.

SmartThings already allows you to define a virtual presence sensor, so then you just need something to trip that.

Quite a few different community members have created methods for this over the years. Many involve a specific device being present on a specific Wi-Fi network, which wouldn’t have to be the same network that the hub is on.

You will find multiple examples in the presence FAQ:

FAQ: The Many Ways of Detecting Presence (2020)

Presence, regardless of the device you use, is one of those features that works great for some people, not at all for other people, and is randomly flaky for still others. It’s very much affected by local conditions. So some people will find that phone presence works much better than the SmartThings-branded presence sensor. Other people will find the reverse. Still other people, myself included, find that they have to use a combination of two devices in order to get reliable presence indication. So if this feature tends to work differently for different people, where do you start? 1. Using a Smart Phone as a Presence Indicator [image] Well, since most people who have SmartThings have a smart phone, it’s worth starting there. This method has changed significantly in the change fro…

[bamarayne (Jason "The Enabler" as deemed so by @Smart)]

@JH1

One was using PTRG, others I think were using utilities on Asus routers

I love my Asus router!

[JH1 (Never Trust @bamarayne)]

Asus routers are good. Ubiquity Unifi’s are great.

[carmp3fan (Nathan H)]

Can’t do that with a Palo Alto firewall.

[carmp3fan (Nathan H)]

I already addressed the issues with most of those. Life360 is extremely unreliable (won’t update for days), the presence sensor runs down and is Zigbee (Zigbee isn’t as common and doesn’t exist in my house, the ST app gives everyone access to everything, and not everyone can run scripts on their router.

[JH1 (Never Trust @bamarayne)]

Could be scripted.

In any event we’re talking about what devices connect to a wifi router. Not the firewall without wireless facilities.

[JDRoberts]

What did Life360 support say? They’re usually regarded as quite reliable, and it’s a very popular service. I’m just wondering if that problem indicates a specific environmental issue.

[bamarayne (Jason "The Enabler" as deemed so by @Smart)]

@carmp3fan

I already addressed the issues with most of those. Life360 is extremely unreliable (won’t update for days), the presence sensor runs down and is Zigbee (Zigbee isn’t as common and doesn’t exist in my house, the ST app gives everyone access to everything, and not everyone can run scripts on their router

You have that much trouble with life360?

[bamarayne (Jason "The Enabler" as deemed so by @Smart)]

@carmp3fan

I already addressed the issues with most of those. Life360 is extremely unreliable (won’t update for days), the presence sensor runs down and is Zigbee (Zigbee isn’t as common and doesn’t exist in my house, the ST app gives everyone access to everything, and not everyone can run scripts on their router

@JDRoberts could be on to something. I live in Birmingham, AL. The mountains here are solid iron ore. You can literally have a full signal, take two steps, and nothing.