AskAlexa Smartapp question regarding invocation name (any possibility of not using an invocation name?)

[MichaelS (Micheal)]

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Anyway to use "And" with alexa for multiple device on/off in one command

Alexa, turn off bedroom light and kitchen light. Can anyone tell me if the above is doable in any way? Thank you all for any dialog!! On a sidenote. I understand routines in smartthings and groups in alexa but this requires the users to have to know the names of said group/ routine. This to me leads to a unnatural feeling. Currently I have the “Ask Alexa” smartapp setup also. So maybe it could help me achieve this? (I’m not sure)