I have a Honeywell rth9580wf1005 that I have owned for about 4 years & it has been a very good WIFI thermostat. Over the past few weeks it has lost WIFI connection & I have done everything to attempt to get it to connect again. I have tried three different routers, changed the SSID and security settings and still cannot get it to connect. I think something may have gone wrong with the hardware and now I think that I will have to replace this thermostat and am trying to decide which one to purchase.
I have grown to rely on the features available when paired with Smartthings, especially Geofencing. It seems that if you use Smartthings, you donāt need a Nest or Ecobee because Smartthings can do everything that the thermostat software can do. Honeywell used to be a solid company and the RCHT8610WF2006 Lyric T5 looks like an economic choice. I am also thinking of getting a Z-Wave thermostat because of the problems that have developed with my WIFI thermostat. Any suggestions?
As you can probably tell, there are those who want a Smart Thermostat and those who want a dumb thermostat that communicates well and then let SmartThings take care of the setpoint changes, geo-fencing, etc. There are pros and cons of both lines of thinking.
I have a CT-100 (Z-Wave) hooked up with the C-Wire that definitely falls in to the dumb category. IMHO, even if SmartThings messes things up, the thermostat would likely just not make any expected changes.and it might stay a little cold or warm - depending on the season. Using webCoRE and SmartThings, I use geofencing and automode changes along with auto-setpoint changes. I could (but donāt currently) use temperature sensors throughout the house to adjust the thermostat too.
I use the ecobee4 as well, with the (free) ecobee suite manager smartapp. There is a more robust paid smartapp out there, but the free one works for me. The entire system works great, and the different modes it operates in help a lot in energy saving and keeping us comfortable. The extra sensor keeps our bedroom warm at night, instead of freezing cold because of the giant single pane windows making up an entire wall.
I read there were issues using the ecobee app geofencing with multiple people, so we use smartthings geofencing, and send mode change commands from the smartthings app. Donāt have to worry about scheduling - which is a pain if you have changing work hours, and it never goes into away mode if anyone is home.
My only complaint is that it doesnāt integrate well w/my Echoās ā¦ they very consistently set the temp 2 degrees lower than the value I ask for. Not really sure what that is about and kind of annoying ā¦ it would be nice to be able to change the temp hands-free. Oh well.
I have no problem using my echo with my ecobee. Do you use the native ecobee skill for alexa or do you control it through the smartthings skill? I had issues with the smartthings skill and my ecobee, so I use the ecobee skill. You just tell her āAlexa, increase temperatureā and she ups it by 2 degrees. Or you can tell her how many degrees you want. You dont have to call out the name of your thermostat either, she knows what you mean.
I tried the ecobee skill and it had issues ā¦ at this point I donāt recall what the problem was, but I disabled it. I should try it again I guess. Good to know it is working for you, if it doesnāt work for me maybe Iāll dig deeper. Does it create any confusion having two sets of ecobeeās in Alexa - the skill and the oneās it finds from smartthings?
I just have my Ecobee3 connected to ST and control it on Echo and Google Home. For additional functions, I use their app or on the web. I am very happy with it. I upgraded from the GoControl thermostat after using it for a couple years. It was a pain to change the program on ST. Now I donāt have that problem with Ecobee3 using their app.
OK so I disabled the ecobee in the ST Alexa smart app, then I set up the ecobee skill on the Alexa app. Now I can get the temp from the two rooms where I have sensors (the thermostat and the sensor) but when I tell her to set the temperature to, lets say 68, she tells me āI can only set the temperature between 60 and 72ā and doesnāt do anything. Thatās kind of annoying since 68 IS between 60 and 72! (I have my ecobee 4 set to auto mode so it figures out if it should run the furnace or AC. As it turns out, 60-72 is the range of allowable temps I have set for heating. Clearly Alexa is confused.) Any ideas?
I tried this with both the ecobee and ecobee plus skills. The ecobee plus skill seems hosed ā¦ when I enable that it doesnāt find the ecobee devices. So there are multiple things not working right here.
Hi, Iām using the honeywell lyric thermostat and had no problems linking to my st v2 hub, personally being a heating engineer if you havenāt bought anything yet look at the smart trvās this set up is by far better having controllable individual radiators.
Man, thatās so strange. When I tell mine to change the temperature sheāll say āAuto is keeping the temperature between 69 and 78 degreesā. Iāve never had an issue with it telling me the error you got. I do know the ecobee servers were down several times yesterday, at least the ones servicing my area. Unfortunately when Alexa errors out she doesnāt give helpful replies, like when you tell her to control a device she doesnāt know she says āa few things share that nameā??
Have you tried to call out commands to your thermostat by the name she has for your ecobee? And is it possible that even though you disabled the device in ST she still has the device saved? Youād need to delete it out and rediscover it once you disable in ST and add the ecobee skill. This will set up the device to work with the new skill.
I did go through the process of removing the ecobee devices that had been pulled in from ST before adding the ecobee skill. I put the devices (sensor and thermostat) in rooms in the Echo app. No matter what phrasing I use, while I can get the temps in the two locations, I canāt set the Echo to set the temps to a specific value. I can get it to increase the temp by saying, āalexa, increase temperature by 2 degreesā. Then she responds like you said, āauto keeping the temperature between x and yā. She increases both numbers from their normal value.
Follow up questions for you:
Sounds like you also use auto mode, not heating or cooling mode, right? I was wondering if this was why itās not working for me, but it sounds like it is working for you so that rules that out.
Are you using the ecobee skill or the ecobee plus skill? Like I said I couldnāt get the ecobee plus skill to do anything (ie, wouldnāt find my devices) so I punted. Wondering if you are using that and I need to focus on getting it to work.
At this point Iāve invested enough time in this that I really want to get it working - hope your answers can help!
You know what, Iāve only ever told her to increase or decrease temperature and to do it by a set amount. Iām at work but when I get home Iāll try out giving her a set temperature. I bet the issue happens because of using auto. Maybe if it was just heat or cooling it would set it. And maybe if youāre more specific by saying set heat to a certain degree it would do itā¦or it would just turn on heat only. Alternatively we may be able to set up a routine with a custom phrase that makes sense to us to achieve what we want. Iāll get back to you tonight!
Worst comes to worst Iāll write a piston with 2 virtual dimmers that will control the hot and cold set points, because now Iām invested and will be kind of annoyed if I canāt set a particular temperature in auto
Re/telling her to set the heat to xyz, rather than just setting the temp to xyz, this occurred to me too so I already tried that - didnāt help. I am stubborn so I didnāt want to try setting the thermostat to heat mode instead of auto, but for the sake of experimentation I just did and guess what ā¦ now telling the echo to set a specific temperature works! Geez, how lame. I am filing a ticket with ecobee on this one!
Re/the āregularā vs. the āplusā skills, which are you using, or do you have both installed? Per previous I canāt get the ecobee plus skill to work stand-alone. It looks like it would work when installed with the āregularā skill but I havenāt tried that yet - it has more commands, but they are a lot more clumsy as you have to preface command with ātell ecobee toā. This just seems like a pain.
I just have the standard skill, have not tried the plus. Yeah that would be nice to have ecobee add a command to adjust auto to a set temperature. I almost always have my thermostat on autoā¦