# \#presence **URL:** https://community.smartthings.com/tag/presence/249.md [Latest](https://community.smartthings.com/latest.md) · [Categories](https://community.smartthings.com/categories.md) · [Tags](https://community.smartthings.com/tags.md) --- ## [\[ST Edge\] WiFi Presence SD – phone presence by home WiFi (no GPS, no app)](https://community.smartthings.com/t/st-edge-wifi-presence-sd-phone-presence-by-home-wifi-no-gps-no-app/311304)
**Author:** [@dotan\_shai](https://community.smartthings.com/u/dotan_shai)\ **Replies:** 14\ **Last updated:** [October 26, 2026, 10:08pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/st-edge-wifi-presence-sd-phone-presence-by-home-wifi-no-gps-no-app/311304 "2026-10-26T22:08:57Z")
Hi all :waving\_hand: I’d like to share a new Edge driver: WiFi Presence SD :satellite\_antenna::house: It detects family members’ presence by checking whether their phone is connected to the home WiFi. No GPS, no app on… --- ## [ST Security Management Presence issues](https://community.smartthings.com/t/st-security-management-presence-issues/306458)
**Author:** [@groundzero2010](https://community.smartthings.com/u/groundzero2010)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [November 14, 2025, 4:23pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/st-security-management-presence-issues/306458 "2025-11-14T16:23:35Z")
My ST security management has 3 members all with phone presence setup. If person 1 and 2 leave, but 3 stays. The alarm still arms as if everyone left. To test, I setup virtual switches for each person to show ON when the… --- ## [iOS presence not working (august 2023)](https://community.smartthings.com/t/ios-presence-not-working-august-2023/268992)
**Author:** [@melissamilligan](https://community.smartthings.com/u/melissamilligan)\ **Replies:** 26\ **Last updated:** [September 16, 2025, 8:33pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/ios-presence-not-working-august-2023/268992 "2025-09-16T20:33:03Z")
Can anyone think of a reason why Smartthings presence sensor doesn’t realize when I’m home? I have it set up the way that it’s supposed to be. At least I think I did. (Followed Bud’s video.) Is anyone else having this… --- ## [Can iPhones be used for presence detection?](https://community.smartthings.com/t/can-iphones-be-used-for-presence-detection/298230)
**Author:** [@paulthbrit](https://community.smartthings.com/u/paulthbrit)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [April 4, 2025, 12:47pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/can-iphones-be-used-for-presence-detection/298230 "2025-04-04T12:47:06Z")
I remember looking into this a few years ago and setting up phones in the old Groovy IDE. My wife and I now have new iPhones and it’s not clear in any of the web searches whether the phones can be used for presence dete… --- ## [Presence no longer working (new app, iPhone 7)](https://community.smartthings.com/t/presence-no-longer-working-new-app-iphone-7/202759)
**Author:** [@kosmicken](https://community.smartthings.com/u/kosmicken)\ **Replies:** 15\ **Last updated:** [September 12, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/presence-no-longer-working-new-app-iphone-7/202759 "2020-09-12T20:10:54Z")
The app shows my phone has been at home since last Tuesday. I have left home, with my phone, many times since then. Uninstalling and reinstalling the app and disabling and re-enabling location services does not fix the… --- ## [iPhone Presence issues with iOS 17?](https://community.smartthings.com/t/iphone-presence-issues-with-ios-17/270553)
**Author:** [@pmjoen](https://community.smartthings.com/u/pmjoen)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [September 27, 2023, 6:00am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/iphone-presence-issues-with-ios-17/270553 "2023-09-27T06:00:21Z")
Since IOS 17 I seem to be having presence issues. It either shows away while at home. Or there is a long delay of when I arrive possibly more than an hour. I have reinstalled Smartthings and allow location but still ha… --- ## [IOS Presence and Automations Hopelessly Broken (July 2023)](https://community.smartthings.com/t/ios-presence-and-automations-hopelessly-broken-july-2023/265731)
**Author:** [@mzp](https://community.smartthings.com/u/mzp)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [July 3, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/ios-presence-and-automations-hopelessly-broken-july-2023/265731 "2023-07-03T16:50:07Z")
I have been unable to get presence (based on iPhones) to work correctly no matter what I do lately. I have had things working for YEARS now and updated to edge and got things working there well for the last year now. B… --- ## [Presence detection no longer working as expected](https://community.smartthings.com/t/presence-detection-no-longer-working-as-expected/260417)
**Author:** [@BlackRose67](https://community.smartthings.com/u/BlackRose67)\ **Replies:** 22\ **Last updated:** [June 18, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/presence-detection-no-longer-working-as-expected/260417 "2023-06-18T14:58:00Z")
Not sure if the latest firmware has caused an issue, but presence detection upon returning home after being away for 30 minutes or more has stopped working as expected. I have a routine that basically says when i return… --- ## [\[OBSOLETE\] Unifi Presence Sensor](https://community.smartthings.com/t/obsolete-unifi-presence-sensor/183781)
**Author:** [@xtreme22886](https://community.smartthings.com/u/xtreme22886)\ **Replies:** 143\ **Last updated:** [August 21, 2022, 7:09pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/obsolete-unifi-presence-sensor/183781 "2022-08-21T19:09:01Z")
I wrote a SmartThings SmartApp, SmartThings Device Handler and a REST API server to enable the ability to use wireless clients on an Unifi Controller as presence sensors. If you have a local Unifi Controller running on … --- ## [Presence doesn’t need internet?](https://community.smartthings.com/t/presence-doesn-t-need-internet/243537)
**Author:** [@Stroh](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Stroh)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [June 10, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/presence-doesn-t-need-internet/243537 "2022-06-10T17:53:39Z")
My Spectrum Internet has been out for three days. The hub is therefore offline and nothing works outside of physically using the switches. Except mobile presence! I am still getting the home and away notifications on my … --- ## [New app: Presence](https://community.smartthings.com/t/new-app-presence/204477)
**Author:** [@John010](https://community.smartthings.com/u/John010)\ **Replies:** 14\ **Last updated:** [February 18, 2022, 5:00pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/new-app-presence/204477 "2022-02-18T17:00:46Z")
Ive been trying to use my phone, or actually 2 phones as a presence sensor in the new app. My old phone was added in the old app and worked fine. Now i have 2 new phones, which i want to use as presence sensors. Both … --- ## [Apple Watch SE as presence sensor 2021](https://community.smartthings.com/t/apple-watch-se-as-presence-sensor-2021/231640)
**Author:** [@Hudsonhouse](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Hudsonhouse)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [January 24, 2022, 8:54am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/apple-watch-se-as-presence-sensor-2021/231640 "2022-01-24T08:54:39Z")
Anyone using the new apple watch SE 2021 (has cellular and GPS activated on family sharing) as a presence with ST hub? There is an old thread from 2017 which seems buried pretty deep on this forum. I have 2 family memb… --- ## [Finally! In new APP: Automated presence based Arming/Disarm/Intruder Alert and Reminders](https://community.smartthings.com/t/finally-in-new-app-automated-presence-based-arming-disarm-intruder-alert-and-reminders/233137)
**Author:** [@baivab](https://community.smartthings.com/u/baivab)\ **Replies:** 12\ **Last updated:** [October 17, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/finally-in-new-app-automated-presence-based-arming-disarm-intruder-alert-and-reminders/233137 "2021-10-17T15:41:24Z")
I went thru tons of forum threads and mostly all were good but either for whatever reason did not work for me or are based off the now sunset SmartThings mobile app (classic). It took some tries and retries but finally … --- ## [Viewable presence in the new app](https://community.smartthings.com/t/viewable-presence-in-the-new-app/179673)
**Author:** [@JKB121](https://community.smartthings.com/u/JKB121)\ **Replies:** 60\ **Last updated:** [March 8, 2021, 5:35pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/viewable-presence-in-the-new-app/179673 "2021-03-08T17:35:44Z")
In the classic app you are able to view an icon that shows if someone is present or away. In the new app that does not seem possible or at least readily available. Has anyone discovered how you can see if someone using a… --- ## [When I return home, my "Someone arrives" automation runs immediately followed by my "Everyone Leaves" automation](https://community.smartthings.com/t/when-i-return-home-my-someone-arrives-automation-runs-immediately-followed-by-my-everyone-leaves-automation/209639)
**Author:** [@ah42](https://community.smartthings.com/u/ah42)\ **Replies:** 31\ **Last updated:** [March 8, 2021, 12:33pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/when-i-return-home-my-someone-arrives-automation-runs-immediately-followed-by-my-everyone-leaves-automation/209639 "2021-03-08T12:33:16Z")
Everything worked fine on the classic app, but when I was forced to migrate to the new app it has broken presence automations. I’ve seen other threads on this, but none that have my particular issue. When I return to my … --- ## [Presence not working on android 11](https://community.smartthings.com/t/presence-not-working-on-android-11/216371)
**Author:** [@Todd\_Basche](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Todd_Basche)\ **Replies:** 12\ **Last updated:** [January 11, 2021, 3:52pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/presence-not-working-on-android-11/216371 "2021-01-11T15:52:20Z")
We have pixel 4a phones running Android 11 The presence function just flat out does not work. Leaving arriving neither work. Have uninstalled and re installed with no effect. We are in the latest smarthings app and l… --- ## [\[Presence\] 'Presence' that is more 'presence change', is it a bug or a feature?](https://community.smartthings.com/t/presence-presence-that-is-more-presence-change-is-it-a-bug-or-a-feature/211247)
**Author:** [@Chares](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Chares)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [November 12, 2020, 10:11pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/presence-presence-that-is-more-presence-change-is-it-a-bug-or-a-feature/211247 "2020-11-12T22:11:24Z")
Heya all, As the title says, The presence ‘feature’ is not really ‘presence’, its more of a ‘presence change’, which means it will only detect a location change. This, is absolutely false and a lie: That should say… --- ## [First Member Home Automation?](https://community.smartthings.com/t/first-member-home-automation/208361)
**Author:** [@Derekeys](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Derekeys)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [October 15, 2020, 12:03pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/first-member-home-automation/208361 "2020-10-15T12:03:54Z")
So, I am having trouble with this basic one. I want an automation to run when either my wife or I arrive home (we are both location members) but not when the second person arrives home. Life 360 used to have a simple t… --- ## [\[OBSOLETE\] Life360 - Refreshed Every Minute & All Places & More All API Data available for webCoRE Usage](https://community.smartthings.com/t/obsolete-life360-refreshed-every-minute-all-places-more-all-api-data-available-for-webcore-usage/116681)
**Author:** [@tmleafs](https://community.smartthings.com/u/tmleafs)\ **Replies:** 212\ **Last updated:** [October 12, 2020, 4:44pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/obsolete-life360-refreshed-every-minute-all-places-more-all-api-data-available-for-webcore-usage/116681 "2020-10-12T16:44:21Z")
UPDATE - November 2018 Now all useful information that Life360 provides is pulled every 5 minutes this information includes PLEASE NOTE: The presence part of the app still runs on original code or manual refresh Addr… --- ## [Presence sensors and automations](https://community.smartthings.com/t/presence-sensors-and-automations/207367)
**Author:** [@chrisgunton](https://community.smartthings.com/u/chrisgunton)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [October 5, 2020, 11:58am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/presence-sensors-and-automations/207367 "2020-10-05T11:58:54Z")
I feel like Smartthings, and the presence sensors in particular, are an abandoned product now… I’ve migrated everything over to the new app on iOS. I’m the only user, but my gf and I both have presence sensors on our ke… --- ## [Key fob presence sensor in the new V3 app?](https://community.smartthings.com/t/key-fob-presence-sensor-in-the-new-v3-app/206403)
**Author:** [@Tonto](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Tonto)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [September 26, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/key-fob-presence-sensor-in-the-new-v3-app/206403 "2020-09-26T19:09:17Z")
Hi, I have just migrated from the classic to the new app, but cannot see a way of using my key fobs as presence sensors to run the ‘goodbye’ and ‘I’m back’ automations. I can see the device but it just shows battery leve… --- ## [INLO Presence](https://community.smartthings.com/t/inlo-presence/201898)
**Author:** [@HAL2000](https://community.smartthings.com/u/HAL2000)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [September 26, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/inlo-presence/201898 "2020-09-26T02:04:37Z")
Has anyone seen the KickStarter for INLO Presence? It looks pretty cool. Thoughts? --- ## [FAQ: Where can I see who's home and who's away in the new V3 app?](https://community.smartthings.com/t/faq-where-can-i-see-whos-home-and-whos-away-in-the-new-v3-app/197793)
**Author:** [@douglasl](https://community.smartthings.com/u/douglasl)\ **Replies:** 22\ **Last updated:** [September 8, 2020, 1:15am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/faq-where-can-i-see-whos-home-and-whos-away-in-the-new-v3-app/197793 "2020-09-08T01:15:54Z")
Where in the NEW app can I see at a glance who’s home and who’s away? In the old app, it was easy because the phones showed up in the device list. My spouse could look at “Doug’s phone” and see instantly was I home or n… --- ## [\[Request\] Automations: anyone arrives home!](https://community.smartthings.com/t/request-automations-anyone-arrives-home/203684)
**Author:** [@Benjamin\_Ginders](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Benjamin_Ginders)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [August 30, 2020, 10:01am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/request-automations-anyone-arrives-home/203684 "2020-08-30T10:01:27Z")
Please add “Anyone ‘Arrives’ Home” "Everyone ‘Leaves’ Home\* The current options based on “at” constantly run of say I include another condition to the ‘IF’ statement. I would like to use the ‘Arrives’ and ‘Leaves’ as… --- ## [Multiple smart phones as presence sensor](https://community.smartthings.com/t/multiple-smart-phones-as-presence-sensor/144416)
**Author:** [@t3man](https://community.smartthings.com/u/t3man)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [December 3, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/multiple-smart-phones-as-presence-sensor/144416 "2018-12-03T17:54:54Z")
Is there anyway to add multiple smartphones as presence sensors without giving them access and control to the hub? I do not want them to have accounts that allow them to change my settings. I have family the comes and g… --- ## [Pixel 4 Presence Constantly Bouncing Between Home and Away](https://community.smartthings.com/t/pixel-4-presence-constantly-bouncing-between-home-and-away/190535)
**Author:** [@Sven](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Sven)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [April 10, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/pixel-4-presence-constantly-bouncing-between-home-and-away/190535 "2020-04-10T21:20:45Z")
Hi all, I have been using a Pixel 4 since it was launched late last year. I immediately added it to smartthings as a presence sensor and have been super pleased with it overall. Way better than my Pixel 3 as reporting l… --- ## [Verisure integration](https://community.smartthings.com/t/verisure-integration/68651)
**Author:** [@anderssv](https://community.smartthings.com/u/anderssv)\ **Replies:** 16\ **Last updated:** [November 5, 2019, 2:45pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/verisure-integration/68651 "2019-11-05T14:45:11Z")
I thought I could use my Verisure alarm to handle presence as we always use it when we leave the house. So I sat down to try and write a Smartapp that could poll the status and use that to set the presence. So I try to… --- ## [Mobile presence with multiple locations](https://community.smartthings.com/t/mobile-presence-with-multiple-locations/87098)
**Author:** [@Moonshine](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Moonshine)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [September 30, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/mobile-presence-with-multiple-locations/87098 "2019-09-30T16:57:30Z")
I currently have two SmartThings v2 hubs (home, office) which I use from an iPhone 7 (iOS 10.3.1). Both have geofences configured for their location in SmartThings. However, lately it seems that it only registers me … --- ## [The Quest for A 100% Reliable Presence detection](https://community.smartthings.com/t/the-quest-for-a-100-reliable-presence-detection/146279)
**Author:** [@Todd\_Basche](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Todd_Basche)\ **Replies:** 25\ **Last updated:** [June 4, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/the-quest-for-a-100-reliable-presence-detection/146279 "2019-06-04T18:44:35Z")
The idea of having our home security system arm and disarm itself automatically is the dream. Our current ADT system sits idle as we never arm it , too much of a hassle. SO for years we never used it. Now i have the @R… --- ## [Smartthings app on Samsung Galaxy S9 no longer updating location after Android P Update](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-on-samsung-galaxy-s9-no-longer-updating-location-after-android-p-update/155740)
**Author:** [@Darinf](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Darinf)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [February 28, 2019, 6:48am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-on-samsung-galaxy-s9-no-longer-updating-location-after-android-p-update/155740 "2019-02-28T06:48:53Z")
Prior to the Android Pie (9.0) update to my Galaxy S9, the Smartthings app location/presence sensor was working great. But now, after the P update, the Smartthings app on my phone no longer updates at all. Life360 is up… [Next page](https://community.smartthings.com/tag/presence/249.md?match_all_tags=true&page=1&tags%5B%5D=presence)