Yale conexis L1 with Z wave module 2

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#1

Hi happy new year.
I am having new uPVC doors being installed shortly.
I would like to integrate the door access function into Google Home, I also have Smartthings ZigBee and Zwave Hubs too.
I’ve been planning this for some time, delayed due to covid19. But now going ahead. My ecosystem lends it’s self to installation of Yale Conexis L1 with module 2 integration into smartthings then into Google Home. I am aware of the short comings and some benefits with this set up. But this product has been around for some years now and not heard of an update. I am wanting to see if there is another better option. I’ve looked at Ultion but the offer seems basic for door entry but benefit of very secure locks. I’ve read that Google linking should be available by now? Also looked at Niki again limited smart entry options and mixed info on smartthings and Google. Also read a review that showed a poor fit for UK doors.

So the question is, is there any offer I’ve missed that some one can recommend? Or any thoughts from anyone using Yale conexis into smartthings and Google home. Maybe a new option in the pipeline.

I have a reasonable sized system about 90 individual devices and multiple third party interfaces.

Any one with some thoughts.

Thanks

#2

@Andrew_Markwell
For uPVC doors - presumably either patio sliding doors or french doors the Connexis L1 is definitely the logical choice. In fact Everest for a time were offering them with their doors.

Here in the UK Yale currently only offer modules for the Connexis L1 which either supports their own keyfob, or links to their own alarm systems, or the Z-Wave module you mentioned which in theory can be linked directly to Smartthings.

Yales in the US also sell a Zigbee module but have not done one for the UK or Europe.

Yale have announced the Yale Access Module which is based on technology they acquired long with the purchase of the August Smart Lock company. This module will therefore link to the Yale bridge i.e. the UK version of the August bridge and via that in theory can be linked to Smartthings.

Yale UK have launched the Yale Linus bridge alongside the new Yale Linus Lock but the Access Module for their older locks like the Connexis L1 has been delayed by Covid-19.

Note: I do not suggest the Linus lock, the Connexis L1 is as I mentioned the logical choice. However you could add the Yale Access Module and Bridge later.

#3

Thanks for your advice. UK here. Module 2 as far as I know is Zwave only. This shows up in ST as a Yale device. I have seen some YouTube clips that report linking to Google Home, infact I can remember seeing this advertised on Yale literature. I read the Linus you posted. Interesting they have placed Google Home and Alexa pictures in there under Linus connect bridge ,convenient voice control. Are you suggesting that conexis Zwave L1 module 2 will be compatible with the new control Linus connect bridge as the out of home control , web, mobile etc.
If so, that’s a good solution.
Implementation of 2 conexis L1 Zwave module 2 get that working and then review. I am a bit of an early adopter, only 3 years late for this project.
Looked at August too, I took them off my short list very early. Every lock seems to be made for USA door market and uPVC doors have very limited options if you want a smart solution. Think I know the answer but, does conexis have biometric (my home is not fort Knox) or have a NFC options. Think not, looked if a third party had anything. No luck so far.
Anyway thanks for your time and good new year.

#4

@Andrew_Markwell
The (blue) Z-Wave Module 2 is Z-Wave only and will not work with the Yale Linus Bridge. I am referring to another announced but not yet available module - the Yale Access Module. It would fit in the same slot but talk to the Yale Linus Bridge.

Depending on your preferences and view, the Z-Wave module might be preferable in that it can be connected directly to Smartthings and not need the extra cost of the Yale Linus Bridge, however the Yale Access Module would via the bridge talk to more things including Apple HomeKit, Google and Alexa. I also have had problems with the (blue) Z-Wave module in the Yale Keyless Connected lock so I have a personal dislike of this module.

The Conexis L1 does support NFC with Yale’s own cards/tags, you cannot use an iPhone to do this nor I believe Android but these phones can use Bluetooth and the Yale app to talk to the lock. Or you can stick a Yale NFC tag on your phone case.

I am not suggesting using August branded products, as you mention they are designed for the US market but the Yale Linus Bridge is the UK version of this and works now with the Linus lock and will work with the Conexis L1 and Keyless Connected locks when the Yale Access Module starts shipping.

You could start off using the Conexis L1 with the NFC cards and/or Bluetooth and/or the built-in numeric keypad and later fit a Yale Access Module or you could use the already available Z-Wave module and optionally replace it later.

#5

Prefect idea. I understand the. Zwave V2 is the fixed product and there was numerous issues with the v1, as far as I was told by a Yale authorised dealer. I totally understand your view and one I will take forward. Thou I get a Zwave V2 for time being , install a vanilla operation and add to once available with ZigBee option. If at that point is a better option and best technology. Things change too quickly at the moment with the new “thread” technology protocol.

Again thank for your help…

Regards

Andrew Markwell

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#6

@Andrew_Markwell
The Yale Z-Wave v1 module worked for me. It used older less secure technology than the v2 module. The first v2 modules had a battery drain issue since fixed.

There is no indication Yale UK plan to make a Zigbee module. Just checked the Yale Linus lock and hence presumably the Yale Access Module use Bluetooth. The Yale Linus Bridge uses WiFi to link to your network and the Internet and Bluetooth to talk to the lock.

#7

It was a installer he refused to install module 1 at that time module 2 had not been released. But read on here the same experience as you have had. ZigBee protocol is not a problem with it not being available. ZWave links to ST so that’s good enough for integration. Thou I would be nervous with secure data over BT, but again I don’t live in fort Knox.

Think I gathered lots of detail thanks Andy

#8

If you decide to go with the Z-Wave module 2 for Yale, check out this Enhanced Z-Wave Lock device handler which will allow you to enable the Eco mode supported by the Yale Z-Wave Module 2 through SmartThings improving your battery life (and also provide you with access to other advanced module settings): [RELEASE] Universal Enhanced Z-Wave Lock Device Handler for Schlage, Yale, Kwikset, IDLock, Popp, Danalock, August Pro, Keywe, Philia, Samsung

#9

Thanks for your reply.

I believe it’s this model. Not purchased yet so still checking priced. Thanks :+1:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yale-Smart-Door-Z-Wave-Module/dp/B07965NDRN/ref=asc_df_B07965NDRN/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=232122755890&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16300747736218807379&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9046370&hvtargid=pla-421592069210&psc=1&th=1&psc=1

Regards

Andrew Markwell

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