Virtual Hub Added?

I just noticed that I have a virtual hub in “No Room Assigned” l did do a device scan this morning but nothing was found so I assume it was added then I also have not seen “No Room Assigned” for months I thought that it was no longer used. Is this virtual hub created by SmartThing or did it show how get created by @TAustin vEdge Creator?

I do have an Aquara hub and a station connected to my v2 hub so wanted a little input before randomly deleting it.

If you open your Virtual Hub, I believe you will see it is a virtual device creator not a hub created by “bye-beta” @blueyetisoftware.

It is similar to @TAustin 's vEdge Creator, but has different capabilities.


@Paul_Oliver I believe you are correct. It does look like the virtual device creator that is created when you have the driver installed.

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@blueyetisoftware I don’t have your driver installed

Weird. You are right. That’s not my virtual hub. Not sure what that would be. Looks like a ST hub with the different protocols in the UI.

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Same to me. No idea where I can use it for. ST asks me when adding a device to which hub…

Pfff after all those years I never got in the virtual/edge world. Stays Chinese for me.

Weird. It is like it has escaped from the Virtual Home app into the real world.

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Have you used the SmartThings simulator, … ever? That is the most common reason it appears.

I’ve got one too now.

Screen Shot 2023-09-07 at 4.05.54 PM

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Never too old to learn what is a simulator?


The above is the brief description of the Simulator from the legacy documentation. You may note an air of caution at the top. By the time I started playing with the IDE, which would have been about 2018, it was pretty much accepted that the simulator was best avoided and I never actively used it. If you did ever use it you were likely to find you now had a ‘Virtual Hub’ device.

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To be very clear, the simulator in question was part of the old SmartThings IDE architecture and access was removed in 2023. So you would have had to access it through the old IDE prior to that time.

Because people are starting to see the virtual hub pop up now,
I am wondering if perhaps it is part of the very new Matter Bridge support. But I don’t know. :thinking:

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Hi, @NickA @Huib_o @Nezmo Do you know the date when the virtual hub was created? or if you enable support access I can check it, support access:

  1. Confirm the email account registered in the forum is the same one you use for SmartThings. If not, please share it with me over DM.
  2. Enable support access to your account:
  1. Go to the SmartThings Web (
  2. Log in to your Samsung Account
  3. Select Menu (⋮) and choose Settings
  4. Toggle on Account Data Access
  5. Select the time period and confirm - In this step, please select “Until turned off”, once the team finishes, we’ll let you know so you can disable it again.
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I do not but likely in the last few days.

Support access is enabled. Same email as this forum.

Has anyone got the API to spew its guts on what it knows about the ‘Virtual Hub’? It might be diagnostic to see what pops up in the CLI / Advanced Web App / API Browser+ or in raw API access to the /devices and /installed-hubs endpoints.

Or someone who knows can just tell us. I’m easy.

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Not much to see in the Advanced Web:

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I noticed on Wednesday morning what caught my attention was the fact that it was in No Room Assigned

Access to my hub is available same email

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the team investigated these devices and based on the creation date, which was some years ago, it means that it does not belong to anything currently implemented on the platform, so it’s possible that they were created through the simulator that was available in the IDE where the DTHs were edited.

you should delete them without any problem via the app, but if you have problems, please let me know :saluting_face:

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But they have only just shown-up/become visible in the last few days …

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Perhaps they were migrated and that’s what made them visible? :thinking:

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