Not that I WANT to leave ST as I love the fact that we have access to the IDE and some seriously advanced features; but the reliability of the system and inconsistent nature of it (works one day, doesn’t the next, etc.) is just too much… especially since I have it implemented at my house to use full…

[image] scottinpollock: IMHO now is a very good time to wait and see. It’s very possible the likes of Google and Apple will establish a much larger presence in this space in 2016. :arrow_up: This. I’ve been saying for over a year that my personal expectation was that by the summer of 2016 th…

[image] geko: [image] JDRoberts: zigbee has better power management This is highly arguable. Most modern battery-powered Z-Wave devices use FLiRS technology (a.k.a. beaming) which is very power efficient. Sure, if you compare recent Zigbee devices with 5-year old ZWave devices that don’t …

[image] JDRoberts: it’s the use of DSSS (Zigbee) versus FSK (Zwave). Zigbee is a more robust modulation for this reason. There’s no doubt about that. Zigbee is implemented on top of IEEE 802.15.4 MAC layer, which is far more advanced than Z-Wave MAC (ITU G.9959). And that’s the reason why un…

Yeah, it’s not a great article, it was the first one I found that mentioned FSK instead of GFSK. I’ll remove it, it doesn’t change the point about DSSS anyway. :sunglasses:

I just ordered smartthings, should have it today, but beginning to wonder if I made a mistake. Started out with a wemo switch because only wanted automated outside lights at that point. Its been very dependable but lack of dimming is getting old and want to add some more automation. I have an echo s…

The zigbee vs zwave is like coke vs pepsi argument. The 65,000 is the theoretical limit in address allocation. Why that is important? See IPv4. zWaves limit of 232 is probably good enough now, but in 10 years will it be? As for ST and most competitors, they are around $100 and works most the time.…

Just read this and found it interesting. I am somewhat familiar with OpenHub, but not at all with the other four mentioned. Did anyone work with any of these other four? [image] 6 open source home automation tools With the Internet of Things rapidly expanding the number of connected devic…

OpenHAB has been discussed a lot in the forums (and in the list above). A couple of the others are basically rules engines and UIs, not device controllers. (A hint is if it says it’s compatible with Vera.) you’d still have to add device controllers to them before you could substitute for SmartThin…

Animus looks very similar to SmartThings and may just provide some competition. I hope this drives SmartThings to get their act together and fix things ! Animus looks interesting and very similar to ST (perhaps without Zigbee depending on the funding level) [image] Animus Heart - Smart …

[image] JDRoberts: A couple of the others are basically rules engines and UIs, not device controllers. I’m not sure what you mean by that. Both Domoticz and Home Assistant are full-fledged HA software packages that support many device types either out of the box or via plug-ins.

[image] geko: [image] JDRoberts: A couple of the others are basically rules engines and UIs, not device controllers. I’m not sure what you mean by that. Both Domoticz and Home Assistant are full-fledged HA software packages that support many device types either out of the box or via plug-…

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