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SPECIFIC differences between "SmartThings (Samsung Connect)" and "SmartThings Classic"

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#21

As of this writing, you will need STSC to set up the Wi-Fi features on the “Samsung Connect Home WiFi mesh router.” Classic does not give you access to these settings.

Note that this router is sold under different names in different countries.


#22

You must have a Samsung account to use STSC. As of this writing, customers could use either a Samsung account or a smartthings account with classic, but the intention is to phase out the SmartThings accounts and move everyone over to Samsung accounts at some point in the future.


#23

Member management is somewhat different between the two apps, although you still can’t limit which devices a secondary member can turn on and off.

However, in STSC, secondary members are not allowed to delete devices or locations. Also, you can create a QR code and use that to invite them.

Everything is quite different for classic


#24

The official “SmartLights” feature is somewhat different between the two apps, as well as between iOS and android.

The following page discusses all of these. There are tabs in the middle of the page which will let you switch between the STSC instructions and the classic instructions, so check to make sure that you are on the one that you want.


#25

The official “Speaker Companion” feature is installed differently in the two apps, but otherwise looks about the same. There are also some differences between iOS and android.

The following discusses all four of these. There are tabs in the middle of the page to swap between STSC and Classic, so make sure you were looking at the one you want.


(ActionTiles.com co-founder Terry @ActionTiles; GitHub: @cosmicpuppy) #26

To the best of my knowledge, ActionTiles can be installed (via the ActionTiles website https://app.ActionTiles.com) and used regardless of which SmartThings App is used.

As of this writing ActionTiles cannot trigger the new App’s “automations” or “scenes”, nor control the alarm (SHM replacement) features.


#27

As of this writing, if you have an android phone, STSC can connect some Bluetooth devices, but know that they’re being connected to your phone not to your hub. For that reason you will not be able to include them in automations. Classic will not see these devices at all unless you are using some custom code specific to that device and some kind of man in the middle server, but in that case you will be able to include them in automations. (if you have an android device, you may also be able to use classic plus Tasker plus sharptools.)

So STSC has a much simpler set up but classic can do more with these kinds of devices.


#28

As of this writing, the scout monitoring integration works only with classic, not STSC.


(Jimmy) #29

As of this writing, Smart Home Monitor in STSC is a totally separate app than in Classic. It uses the new API and has different features Specifically:

  1. STSC has a siren delay option. Classic does not
  2. SHM Classic can run local, STSC can’t.
  3. SHM STSC can’t be automatically armed by anything but time and the new buttom. SHM Classic can be armed by presence, switch, etc.

(Jimmy) #30

To clarify, Keen vents work with STSC, but there is no way to add them. At least they aren’t listed as a supported device. So you have to add them via Classic.


(Jimmy) #33

1.6.05 came out on iOS yesterday and supports iPads. Haven’t tried it myself, yet.


#34

In Classic, you can start from the details page for an individual device and drill down to see all of the smartapps referencing that specific device—and only those smartapps.

It appears that in STSC this feature is gone. Now you can only see the master list of all automations, not a subset limited to an individual device.


(Jimmy) #35

In Classic, there is a tab on the device page to view up to 7 days of history.

In STSC you can’t view the history of a device anywhere.


(Jimmy) #36

Supposedly the ADT panel works with STSC now, but i have no way to verify that.


#37

As of this writing, Support still is telling people With the ADT/smartthings security panel Model to use classic for now. They are beginning to port over the features, but that work is not yet done.

New ADT customers should use the SmartThings Classic application. We are still working to ensure ADT features are fully supported in the new SmartThings app.


(Brad) #38

The current version of STSC does not support landscape mode for iPads.


(Brad) #39

You cannot initiate a Z-Wave network repair from STSC.


(Brad) #40

In Classic, you cannot enable Zigbee OTA device updates.


(Brad) #41

In Classic, you can invite users to your location via email.

In STSC, you can invite users to your location via Samsung account or QR code but not email address.


(Jameson) #42

In STSC there is a device called “Smart things hub”, which can be assigned a room. This device is not present in the Classic App. If by accident you delete this device, instead of removing it from a room per se, it causes a partial hub deletion and screw your entire setup up, causing you to have to re add every device. Devices will still show in the Classic App, but no zIgbee functions work, and zwave will be shoddy and not work until you re add everything.