SPECIFIC differences between "SmartThings Classic" (the V2 app) and “SmartThings (Samsung Connect)” (the V3 app)

If true, I am so done with SmartThings.

Can anyone with Samsung or “in the know” confirm this?

Paging @JDRoberts, @Brad_ST

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I haven’t seen anything specifically announced yet. But there are definitely a lot of improvements in the most recent version of the new app. It’s the one that I will now be using. :sunglasses:

@jody.albritton

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we can delete this now

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this can be deleted or modified now. Classic has widgets for routines, V3 app has them for scenes.

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Be careful about those guardrails, they may trip you fast if you are not on your best “behavior” … Hopefully they raised the bar for us “power users” with more than 6 devices. :slight_smile:

I hope the sunset is set in stone! That means everything Classic can do, the v3 can do better. Muahahaa, they have a short period to catch up.

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I am very appreciative for the help last night from this forum. I’m a little frustrated with Samsung customer support as he was very sure of himself that those features were never going to be implemented as well as the turn off date for classic. Since he was wrong on one of those things maybe he is wrong on the other?

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Obviously he’s wrong about shutting down the Classic app on Jan 1st. The new app is nowhere near ready, for the new app to replace the Classic app, it would have to do everything the Classic app does, and just as fast, which it clearly doesn’t, not even close. At the rate they are going it (if ever) will be at LEAST another year. The new app is still in beta, I admire all the guinea pigs for persevering though. The long list of problems is horrifying to read, the most embarrassing is it still force closes sometimes.

Please take discussion of future developments, complaints, design ideas, what support said, etc. to the discussion thread:

"SmartThings Classic" vs "SmartThings (Samsung Connect)"

This thread should only be used to list specific differences between the two apps. If we get off into all of the other discussions, this thread will cease to be useful.

Thanks! :sunglasses:

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A date for deprecation of SmartThings (Classic) App has not been officially announced anywhere.

As usual, random information like this from SmartThings Support is not trustworthy.

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New app can now set hub connected device settings. This is @krlaframboise dome siren DTH. I have t tried changing anything yet, though.

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I just checked some of my other handlers like the Zooz Smart Switch and those settings are shown too.

I wonder when they made that change?

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Today I think.

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Is it safe to run both the classic app and the new app on my phone? Even if I’m using my phone as a presence sensor?

Yes.

The presence sensing for the two apps is completely separate. You’ll only want to use one of them as presence sensor.

I ran both apps for close to a year with the classic app has presence sensor. Started having long delays with that app triggering presence changes so I removed the sensing in the classic app, set it up in the new app. All working well, both apps still installed.

iOS has trouble with mobile presence when both apps were installed. I got sick of fiddling with it and deleted the Classic app from my phone. Only have it on an iPad now.

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So, I haven’t used the STSC app in a long time. It looks like a lot of the missing items from the v2 app are now there. Am I right? I feel like I could switch over to this now. I see custom SmartApps. It looks like webcore is working. I understand the change from routines to automations/scenes. I have several custom device handlers that also seem to be working.

Is it time to come back to the fold? :slight_smile:

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Is not perfect yet, but improving. I keep finding the need to go back to Classic. Some Settings for various devices (custom or native) are not working. I stumbled on two yesterday, changing Settings for HEM custom device and changing setting for builtin Ecobee. Also, converting Classic routines into scenes didn’t go well. I reached a point where new scenes were not saving, I guess I reached my behaviors limit.

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WebCoRE doesn’t arm/disarm STHM in the new app yet but you can use automations to do that

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