# Smartthings motion sensor "no motion" **URL:** \ **Category:** SmartApps & Automations\ **Created:** [December 22, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-motion-sensor-no-motion/181328 "2019-12-22T18:11:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Graham2306](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df705f/32.png) [@Graham2306](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Graham2306)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-motion-sensor-no-motion/181328/1 "2019-12-22T18:11:48Z")
I have a simple automation that turns a light on with movement and then after 10 minutes of “no motion” turns it off. What I have found is that if there is “motion” during the 10 minutes the the 10 minute timer is not reset and the light goes off 10 minutes after the initial " no motion" ,I have other types of sensors that will give a 10 minute period of " no motion" from the last no motion action , is there anything I can do to the Smartthings sensor to get it to work like this. ---
**Author:** ![AlecM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@AlecM](https://community.smartthings.com/u/AlecM)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 8:10pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-motion-sensor-no-motion/181328/2 "2019-12-22T20:10:13Z")
Hello, @Graham2306 It depends - how did you create the automation? Thanks! Alec ---
**Author:** ![Graham2306](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df705f/32.png) [@Graham2306](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Graham2306)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-motion-sensor-no-motion/181328/3 "2019-12-22T20:12:08Z")
Hello AlecM, I created the automation in the Smarthings app. ---
**Author:** ![AlecM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@AlecM](https://community.smartthings.com/u/AlecM)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-motion-sensor-no-motion/181328/4 "2019-12-22T20:51:49Z")
Hello - I’m assuming you mean ‘Automations’ in the “new” SmartThings app. (Icon is a circle surrounded by 5 other circles). I just tested an automation with my Samsung Motion Sensor (bought last year - so recent generation) to turn off a light after two minutes no motion - and it worked perfectly. I kept setting off motion again and again - and then stayed away for two minutes and _then_ the light went off. (So Motion sensor: No motion for 2 minutes). That’s how yours _should_ be working… sorry, that’s not particularly helpful. Maybe take a look at its Activity istory (go to the sensor, and look at “Activity history” ) and see if it’s actually resetting to “No motion” when you expect it to? Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![Graham2306](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df705f/32.png) [@Graham2306](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Graham2306)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 10:19pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-motion-sensor-no-motion/181328/5 "2019-12-22T22:19:49Z")
Yes that is how I would expect it to work , I have looked at the history and the “motion detected” and “no motion” times are as expected. ---
**Author:** ![HalD](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/hald/32/173267_2.png) [@HalD](https://community.smartthings.com/u/HalD)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-motion-sensor-no-motion/181328/6 "2019-12-23T02:32:43Z")
Try creating your automation using the Smart Lighting SmartApp. I use that scenario in my garage and it works perfectly. ---
**Author:** ![oldcomputerwiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c77e96/32.png) [@oldcomputerwiz](https://community.smartthings.com/u/oldcomputerwiz)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 5:41am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-motion-sensor-no-motion/181328/7 "2019-12-23T05:41:43Z")
If you created the rule in the _ **Automation** _ section of the new V3 app the timer DOES NOT reset. It is just that, a timer that counts down to zero. As @HalD said, smart lighting is where you want to create this rule. ---
**Author:** ![AlecM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@AlecM](https://community.smartthings.com/u/AlecM)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-motion-sensor-no-motion/181328/8 "2019-12-23T13:08:20Z")
Dunno @oldcomputerwiz - I created one and it absolutely resets when another motion happens. Fires exactly x minutes after last reset to no motion, only if no other motion has happened. I tried it a few times (using Automations in new app). Could it be - because I have a V2 hub though using new app? So different behavior on V3 (Though that seems weird). - sensor version - mine’s about a year old, though it’s the “new” type - maybe newest version works differently? Just guessing here. Anyhow, agree with trying Smart Lighting. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![erickv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/erickv/32/230792_2.png) [@erickv](https://community.smartthings.com/u/erickv)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-motion-sensor-no-motion/181328/9 "2019-12-23T15:31:22Z")
Hello, @Graham2306, [Here](https://smartthings.developer.samsung.com/docs/rules/rules-breakdown.html) you’ll find an example of the exact action you want to execute using the Rules API. Hope this information helps you, Erick. ---
**Author:** ![Graham2306](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df705f/32.png) [@Graham2306](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Graham2306)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-motion-sensor-no-motion/181328/10 "2019-12-23T19:47:46Z")
I can get it to work as I want by using an Alexa routine or Smart lighting to turn lights OFF so it must be a bug in v3 Smartthings app. ---
**Author:** ![rlecs](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/rlecs/32/118985_2.png) [@rlecs](https://community.smartthings.com/u/rlecs)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 3:16pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-motion-sensor-no-motion/181328/11 "2020-08-06T15:16:32Z")
I’m running into this at a 2nd home of mine so tested it at my home. Only difference is the motion sensor here is a ST. The one at the 2nd is another brand that I pulled over from a wink hub. I’d hazard to guess it’s more an issue with the device handler of the other sensor.