You heard crickets, Ogie? 
Man, I need to get my ears checked… I didn’t hear ANYTHING…
I’ve been waiting more than 2 years since they broke voice navigation and multiple staff members promised a fix…
Honestly, I didn’t want to post anymore here since I have been called out by the rhetorical question of
But let me answer this, Community Master is a badge in the Discourse forum engine:
Community Master
You have visited, and logged into, the community consecutively for the last 100 days.
But for you, @blueyetisoftware, I have changed it to
Helpful
But really what changed my mind was @ogiewon’s and @nathancu’s replies. They bl00dy made my day. 
And not being a troll, but @ogiewon summed it up very well. We have all seen promises of the platform, changes coming and going undocumented, knowing that there is a Bluetooth radio was built in the v2 Hubs which was never activated and deployed, how text messages have been removed from not US users, or how the classic up has sunset without some parity with the current app (camera platform just an example).
@fido called out on the app, which is terrible. It fails more than it works or does something. It is a shame. No other words for it.
@JDRoberts mentioned the voice control which was promised mamy times. And he has a really strong and good point, smart home tech helps a lot of people with any sort of disabilities. Samsung just not supports this minority and disregards all call on it. And it is really a serious shame in 2022.
I respect and support all the developers in SmartThings, they do an amazing job and develops things what changes a lot of people lives in a positive way, but the corporate environment what they have to deal with is not sleek and free of possibilities what they deserve. They literally has to push a square shaped block through a round hole and call it a job. I have read some public discussions from some of the developers which were full of frustration, because they have to deal with an environment which probably not even documented for themselves, and they have to experiment with it how is it working.
And I respect that effort, what they put from their free time to support this community as well, as they do it in their free time. And they are really kind and hard working to get things working when things are screwed up and on a Friday afternoon in Europe, when then UK support just not answers emails anymore because its weekend, and all the Google Home integration is fckd up due to a morning untested deployment.
This platform is really floating because of the people in this community, not because the millions whom Samsung deployed the software. The platform is running because many clever and talented engineers are working on it in a really strick and narrow corporate environment. We had ups and down during the years, people get pissed on many things and jumped ship, but narrowing your understanding of Home Automation to SmartThings only is a really bold move. The other platforms has a lot more to offer and it is never bad to learn from them. I’ve posted recently about the possibility with the new LUA code, to implement MQTT communication in Edge drivers, or do AES encryption, what wasn’t possible with the Groovy code. These two things opens up endless possibilities to community built integration, like Broadlink devices, or the other subject which was looked at, devices with CoAP encrypted connection.
The new Edge driver idea is amazing and it moves the platform forward, but so many good people was lost during the year due to the slow development and undesired changes, than made many people to look at other more sustainable and capable platforms.
And if you consider the hardware as well, when that will be not capable enough to run the Edge drivers, the sunset of the v1 Hubs wasn’t too long time ago, and there wasn’t really an option to the users to migrate to a new hub. How is that going to work with Samsung redoing the whole hardware and software every two years on the TVs, fridges, washing machines. Some of them are still using OFC, or the Artic protocol what supposed to be already dead, due to their limitations.
So, not so much hope that the right decisions will be made regarding the hardware. This USB Zigbee dongle was an idea before and it has failed miserably…
That should be stickied to the top of every section and then locked
Platform - good, solid, very stable.
iOS app - sucks.
I’m going to add a little more wood to the fire, which looks like it’s going out!!
I already said that with every question and every answer in the community you learned something new.
I didn’t know that the Founder User CATEGORY existed.
What does this category include? More rights or more obligations? either both or neither?
I don’t know if my 2-year seniority authorizes me to say this.
Said with great respect to this wonderful community
Repeating a lie 1000 times so that it becomes a truth, does not sneak, It’s okay!
Smartthings has never been a friendly and easy-to-use platform for any user.
You only need to read in the Post since 2015, you don’t have to go to UCLA or Oxford!
Always the same problems and the same stories: this does not work for me and it worked well for me, Who can make a DTH to make this camera or this switch work for me…, this automation does not work for me, which I am doing wrong?..
I would have enjoyed those groovy years!!, but normal users had the same problems as now , they need help integrating their devices, because it wasn’t easy for anyone. IT WASN’T WONDERFUL FOR EVERYONE. As some of you say.
And I see the same users, always complaining and asking, never offering solutions or contributing. It is not a question of Aptitude and is a question of Attitude.
Others always continue to help and also complain, as it should be. @JDRoberts and others
It has been a platform created from a wonderful idea and with the continuous contribution of many developers, some altruistic and others not so much …
When it was sold to Samsung, I think they didn’t ask the founding users for their opinion, they just sold it because it was theirs property and because they had peaked with the means they had.
Surely it took a lot of money to continue growing and it was time to pick the harvest.
Some developers who put in a lot of effort and time and got nothing decided to create another platform with the same smartthings foundations they had helped create. I find it logical and admirable.
You can say that when they sold smartthings they had a commitment from Samsung to maintain the essence of smartthings. Hahaha… 
That’s like if the one who buys you something tells you: I buy it, but the money I give you have to spend on what I tell you. How delusional!!
And to the classsic App? It was wonderful, Yes , but it didn’t give more than self and if they want to grow that costs a lot $$$
In that Classic app, to make an automation and turn on a light or send you a notification if an open door, you had to download a smartApp from the marketplace, install it on phone and configure it, in English! What a serious dinosaur in 2022!
When I installed classic app on a family member’s phone, the first thing he said to me: What the fuck is this, that I don’t understand anything he’s saying?
It is that some still believe that they are the navel of the world and we all have to know English even to shit!
Who call troll anyone who does not agree with yours complaints or theories is to be an ignorant.
No one is forced to be here, nor is they forced to buy anything Samsung thing, I have nothing Samsung, no phone, no TV, or anything, sorry, surely the SRAM memories of my iMac will be samsung, I had not noticed.
If I do not get what I need, or I am not treated with respect, which I believe, I deserve, goodbye good afternoon have you!. I’ll find something else.
To each his own . If I buy an ACME-branded switch and want it to work with smartthings, I’ll have to tell ACME to make a smartthing driver or I won’t buy it. You can’t require samsung to make you a controller for your ACME switch.
Thank You to Samsung who has spent a lot of money developing a new open platform so that ACME can make a controller in 10 minutes for its switch woks with smartthings.
Ask to Google or Amazon to pay for the integration of their platform into smartthings. Samsung has its own system, it will do its best to get you to use yours, just like you would.
Every change has its good part and its bad part . we wanted local execution and that big improvement will come at a cost, our Hubs will die as soon as their flash memory says enough. We will have to change hubs with new technology.
My opinion is that whoever wants to have everything on one platform has it very difficult and I don’t know if that would be good. I use several, each thing with what suits me best and always with the backup of what is important.
This is a continuous change, because the big multinationals want it that way. It’s the way you have to renew everything every x year.
Only some sectors, such as the aeronautics that I know, are saved from this behavior, because the first thing is safety and changes are either justified or not made and on the other hand the developments are very expensive and do not pay for themselves in many years. Only the obsolescence or shortage of components justify new developments. The most technologically advanced thing you will see on a plane will be in your seat with VOD, phone, games… An i486 or similar is still the star in many computers that control engines, autopilot, navigation…
But everyday life is a continuous change, whether we like it or not.
CAMINANTE NO HAY CAMINO
Caminante, son tus huellas
el camino y nada más;
Caminante, no hay camino,
se hace camino al andar.
Al andar se hace el camino,
y al volver la vista atrás
se ve la senda que nunca
se ha de volver a pisar.
Caminante no hay camino
sino estelas en la mar.
Del Poeta, Antonio Machado
WALKER THERE IS NO ROAD
Walker, are your footprints
the road and nothing else;
Walker, there is no path,
path is made by walking.
When walking, the path is made,
and looking back
you see the path that never
must be stepped on again.
walker there is no way
but wakes in the sea
Back to the OP…
Meanwhile Samsung sells one of its IoT hardware business in South Korea…
Very interesting!
As noted in the article, their main product has been some really nice digital locks (not all models are networked), mostly available in Asia. It took a long time for any of those models to work with ST, and then only a few models.
I doubt if the sale will have much impact on SmartThings itself, one way or the other, but it is interesting. 
I don’t get this part, Google Home has the SDK, good documentation and even local API. Part of the agreement is that you must own the trademark and be official representative.
The Samsung own the rights on Smartthings name, icon and hosts servers. There is even a “Skill” that supports 90% of available things.
There are bugs in the integration code like scenes are not executed or duplicated, locks are not supported etc. And overall it reflects the possibilities of the Google Home of 2019.
Should I ask Google to stop the GH platform’s progress just because ST team doesn’t have a good engineer who can implement and fix features?
Should Google borrow some development resources to fix the ST servers ?
Maybe also we should ask Apple to provide some iOS devs to fix the buggy and lagging application.
At this moment it’s faster to use the GH app than the official ST application
Do you think Samsung doesn’t have such good engineers to do that?
The idea I wanted to convey is that Samsung’s interest for smartthings to work with Google or Alexa does not have to coincide with the interest of Amazon and Google for that to happen. Especially when it costs money and Samsung has invested in Bixby, it’s another thing to make Bixby works and not have to abandon it.
That we would all love a perfect integration, I know. But for now with Alexa or google alone it doesn’t work for me, I like smartthings more than Alexa and google and that’s why I have smartthings, if I liked alexa more I would be in alexa.
For me, GH is like the one who invites everyone to eat at his house, but everyone brings their own food.
And in my opinion, compared to smartthings it is a toy
Do I have the right to ask Samsung to work 100% with Alexa and Google? Of course, and they have the right to make me a comb, everything will depend on their interests and business objectives and if one day Alexa or Google can be their direct competitors and customers leave smartthing.
Rather, they are complementary services, and it would be good if they reached an agreement on costs or do you think that if the general cost, including comercial cost, were free, it would not be done?
Not that I find it funny, but, the same answer for Iphone. What is Samsung going to dedicate more resources to developing its Android App or IOS app?
Can you use HomeKit or any IOS app from your Samsung or Android phone? Does that matter to Apple?
I think what Apple wants is for you to buy an iPhone and use homekit
This is how it is now, I think, and it may change in the future with Matter, I don’t know, it doesn’t bother me. Because they will do what suits them best, not for us, even if it seems that they do it for us.
It keeps me awake at other more important things!
I have to argue about this sentence, especially the good phrase in it. I have seen code which was questioning that some of those documentations are correct from Google.
And just to make clear Google has its own serious issues as well.
Since the recent Sonos lawsuit and ruling the platform is in its worst state for years. The whole multi-room/multi-device support has been bombed to almost non-existence.
This comment from Reddit kinda sums it up:
https://www.reddit.com/r/googlehome/comments/rtjyda/comment/hr9nfyj/
But the whole topic worth a read:
https://www.reddit.com/r/googlehome/comments/rtjyda/monthly_complaints_and_rants_megathread_january/
People rely on these technologies, what sometimes developers do not understand, @JDRoberts could tell more about these issues, how a none working voice control can ruin further your life, when you rely on it for your normal daily routines.
Smartthings is dead (groovy), long live smartthings (edge) 
Google home is half excellent, half utter utter shit. Its missing such basic features from its routines builder, and its really a frustrating experience setting up Google routines if you don’t want to use voice. Ive started using Action Blocks which has taken a lot of the frustration out of it for me, but that still has some quirks- but utterly essential if you’re a Google home user that doesn’t want to talk to inanimate objects (edit: I had written “like a mentalist” here but I know how important voice commands are to some people, I really didn’t mean to offend. I just have an alarm clock that has Google assistant built in and feel completely daft talking to a clock)
On the other hand, I literally only interact with my smartthing powered smarthome via the device control quick setting built into android 12, which populates from Google home. It’s so much better than using the smartthings app.
Following this logic soon ST will be working only on the latest Samsung phones, and support only (most marginal) Samsung appliances.
Somehow Google found resources to make a good iOS apps , even so it’s competitive platform.
Do I have the right to ask Samsung to work 100% with Alexa and Google?
well if Samsung want to sell me, or friend of mine, a washing machine or vacuum cleaner. I expect these will work with all the current voice assistants. Also I expect it will work not worse than my current setup that supports per room cleaning triggered via voice.
Smart home is a lucrative market , and Samsung might be interested to stay in the leader list
In fairness to all these companies, the contagious electronic world s a significant threat. It’s no surprise that, while ‘integration’ was the buzz just a few years ago, these companies are now tending to withdraw into their own little spheres.