# SmartThings App LIVE for Android and iOS **URL:** \ **Category:** Apps & Clients\ **Created:** [September 3, 2015, 11:13pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623 "2015-09-03T23:13:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![April](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/april/32/15314_2.png) [@April](https://community.smartthings.com/u/April)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 11:13pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623/1 "2015-09-03T23:13:37Z")
The wait is over! The new SmartThings app is now live. If you already have the SmartThings app, you’ll automatically receive an upgrade over the next hour or two. Your existing setup will continue to work as expected. There are some changes in the navigation, but it should be pretty straightforward. If have any confusion, this support article will help you find what you’re looking for, and of course we’re always available at [support@smartthings.com](mailto:support@smartthings.com). If you have not downloaded SmartThings, this is a great time to check it out. The new app has an intuitive design and lots of great new features, including enhanced rooms and device views, and a rich new solution called Smart Home Monitor. ---
**Author:** ![baldeagle072](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/baldeagle072/32/136125_2.png) [@baldeagle072](https://community.smartthings.com/u/baldeagle072)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 11:17pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623/2 "2015-09-03T23:17:05Z")
Is there a way to see what mode it is in? I know we have to change the mode through routines, but how do I know what mode it is in? ---
**Author:** ![kris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@kris](https://community.smartthings.com/u/kris)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 11:20pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623/3 "2015-09-03T23:20:38Z")
Under the “Home” icon (four small squares that make up one bigger square) you should see mode on the left. ---
**Author:** ![swindmiller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@swindmiller](https://community.smartthings.com/u/swindmiller)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623/4 "2015-09-03T23:35:31Z")
Here @kris? ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/e/3/e345aaa77d4362e8d88edd29bcb255f7d81eda1e.jpg) Am I missing something? ---
**Author:** ![swindmiller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@swindmiller](https://community.smartthings.com/u/swindmiller)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 11:48pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623/6 "2015-09-03T23:48:42Z")
Sorry, apparently I just had to “pull down” and the mode shows. Thanks! ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/d/5/d5b42380ce15a6d64ae7d071f81f68e4da7d594a.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![copyninja](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/copyninja/32/13516_2.png) [@copyninja](https://community.smartthings.com/u/copyninja)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 12:10am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623/7 "2015-09-04T00:10:52Z")
I’m a sad Windows Phone user 😭 . ---
**Author:** ![gusmorgan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/278dde/32.png) [@gusmorgan](https://community.smartthings.com/u/gusmorgan)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 12:25am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623/8 "2015-09-04T00:25:51Z")
how can I change the order of the rooms on the Home screen and the tiles for the routines? I can’t figure out how to slide them up/down. ---
**Author:** ![smart](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/smart/32/87920_2.png) [@smart](https://community.smartthings.com/u/smart)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 12:27am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623/9 "2015-09-04T00:27:22Z")
I am trying to figure that out in my brain in reverse alphabetical order! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![swindmiller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@swindmiller](https://community.smartthings.com/u/swindmiller)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 12:28am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623/10 "2015-09-04T00:28:22Z")
When you see the list of rooms, click the 3 dots on the top right, click re-order and you can re-order from there. ---
**Author:** ![gusmorgan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/278dde/32.png) [@gusmorgan](https://community.smartthings.com/u/gusmorgan)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 12:31am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623/11 "2015-09-04T00:31:48Z")
@smart that helps with rooms, thanks. how about routines? ---
**Author:** ![swindmiller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@swindmiller](https://community.smartthings.com/u/swindmiller)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 12:32am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623/12 "2015-09-04T00:32:58Z")
Sorry but I don’t see a way to sort those. Maybe someone else does. ---
**Author:** ![smart](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/smart/32/87920_2.png) [@smart](https://community.smartthings.com/u/smart)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 12:33am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623/13 "2015-09-04T00:33:31Z")
This is one area I hate in the new app… Huge icons! That should be one fouth of the size and I wear glasses to read! ---
**Author:** ![gusmorgan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/278dde/32.png) [@gusmorgan](https://community.smartthings.com/u/gusmorgan)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 12:35am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623/14 "2015-09-04T00:35:28Z")
does anyone else have an issue with the contrast of the new font against the white background? It is difficult to see easily; it would be better if the font were bolder or darker. ---
**Author:** ![kris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@kris](https://community.smartthings.com/u/kris)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 12:35am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623/15 "2015-09-04T00:35:43Z")
Routines do not have the ability to customize icons or reorder. ---
**Author:** ![smart](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/smart/32/87920_2.png) [@smart](https://community.smartthings.com/u/smart)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 12:37am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623/16 "2015-09-04T00:37:26Z")
But any.chance to make those smaller? ---
**Author:** ![gusmorgan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/278dde/32.png) [@gusmorgan](https://community.smartthings.com/u/gusmorgan)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 12:37am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623/17 "2015-09-04T00:37:51Z")
@kris then they are useless if i have to scroll thru a list of them to get the one i want quickly. I added a bunch so that I can use them with my watch. ---
**Author:** ![swindmiller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@swindmiller](https://community.smartthings.com/u/swindmiller)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 12:37am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623/18 "2015-09-04T00:37:54Z")
I think what they were going for based off the videos was being able to open the app and easily click a Routine like as you were leaving the house (alarm). That’s just my guess though. Not sure how I feel about them yet, I have to start using them. All my HH phrases were triggered automatically before so I may try some manually. ---
**Author:** ![kris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@kris](https://community.smartthings.com/u/kris)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 12:40am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623/19 "2015-09-04T00:40:59Z")
Will feed this feedback up to appropriate parties. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![smart](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/smart/32/87920_2.png) [@smart](https://community.smartthings.com/u/smart)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 12:41am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623/20 "2015-09-04T00:41:29Z")
A little bit of sexiness is a must as we say in Wall Street apps! Ecobee got this to some extent. Minimal but sexy! I am a ux designner/architect for Wall Street firms…will work for ST in exchange of devices and a seat next to @april. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![swindmiller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@swindmiller](https://community.smartthings.com/u/swindmiller)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623/21 "2015-09-04T00:42:43Z")
Re-ordering would be nice too 😄 [Next page](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smartthings-app-live-for-android-and-ios/21623.md?page=2)