Sharptools , actiontiles or native ST app for your wall panel? (2019)

There is a setting in the builder for each tile. I wanted to make them as invisible as possible when they were in the normal state but when they are on, I wanted them to stand out. This is under effects. I set them to glow.

If you have any more questions just ask

Tom

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Thank you @Tom_Guelker. I’m sure I’ll have more questions once I start working on it so I appologiese in advance if my questions will be “to basic” . I am reading a lot and watch a ton of videos but I’m still a bit overwhelmed. I think I’ve started with to many things at once but … I’m loving it :slight_smile:

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We all started out being overwhelmed. Feel free to ask any questions. I will do my best to answer them

Tom

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Just saw Justin published a video for how to create the jukebox dashboard with his echo device. Think you might be interested.

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Please post the link for that

https://youtu.be/Vz8bzMLz224

Or you could just click on the graphic in @jamesguitar3 's post.

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Just bought actiontiles as the trial was about to expire. Played around for a bit and it looks awesome with a lot of options for customization. One quick question for @tgauchat or anyone else that can help: Is it possible to add a wayze cam v2 as a media tile without the tiny cam pro app? I have the tiny cam pro but I don’t like the fact that I have to use a device as the server so would be great if I can just add the wyze cam directly to my actiontiles dashboard. P.S. Sharptools looks great too but as many of you if I can avoid yet another subscription I’ll definitely do it :slight_smile:

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Thanks for taking the time to explore ActionTiles, Victor - and for the compliments. @625alex and I really appreciate seeing our work… useful and… appreciated!

No - unfortunately, for a few reasons. Most “cloud cam” brands don’t allow direct web browser access to their cameras because it costs them resources, stability risk, security risk, etc… Many (including Wyze) do not even permit local access to streams - via the web or any App! Some are opening this up on a partner by partner basis (like Wyze and Ring can be viewed upon request on Alexa Show and Google Home devices).

The other reason is that the only common camera-browser compatible streaming format is MJPEG and this format/protocol is very inefficient and not practical for high resolution… So most cameras don’t even offer it. Instead, more efficient streams can be wrapped in RTSP - but mobile browsers cannot embed RTSP streams. (Wyze offers RTSP as an optional at your own risk firmware, BTW).

Thanks for the quick response!

I did saw it but being still in beta it’s not my cup of tea. I think I’ll just use tiny cam pro on an old smartphone or something at least until wyze will release the official RTSP or until I’ll upgrade that camera.

I doubt Wyze will put much more effort into local RTSP. They did it as a goodwill gesture for small percentage of their customers who are power users. It is not a core business strategy.

Regardless, unless mobile browses enhance their video handling, even RTSP cannot be embedded into a web page like ActionTiles.

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I have to agree with action tiles being a better option.

Especially if you’re using older devices that run a little slower.

Action tiles just run a little smother on a gen 1 or 2 iPad Mini

@kewashi
Will HousePanel work with the new Rules API?

@tgauchat @joshua_lyon
Will ActionTiles and SharpTools run locally in some way with the new Rules API?

E.g. can we buy a Raspberry Pi with your app preloaded?

Thanks

No - the new rules API only works with apps written in the new architecture. HP uses the legacy architecture - but then again, as a dashboard I’m not sure why you would need it to work with a rule automation feature. It does support WebCore Pistons and you can make arbitrary webhook API calls, which in theory could invoke the new rules API but I haven’t tried this.

These two commercial packages both run in the cloud only.

Funny you should ask – because my wife has been telling me to do this to create value and a viable business plan for HousePanel. I guess she was right, but I didn’t do this unfortunately. The next best thing is the install script which makes installation a snap. The problem with a pre-installed version would be I would need to have your ST hub login info for it to be truly plug and play…

We (SharpTools) have been working with SmartThings on the new Rule API, but primarily for the Rule Engine part of SharpTools.io.

We were privileged to be part of the limited Rule API pre-release leading up to the last Samsung Developer conference and are excited about the possibilities it will bring - especially the future possibility of locally executing rules.

The Rule API is really designed around rule/automations. The being said, even the Rule API does not run locally at the moment (though there are plans for parts of it to run locally in the future).

At the moment, no dashboard is going to run locally with SmartThings. While HousePanel hosts the files for loading the dashboard app locally, the integration itself requires a connection to the SmartThings cloud - both for device control and device status updates.

Similarly, both SharpTools and ActionTiles (and any other app integration) communicate with the SmartThings cloud. Even the SmartThings Mobile app itself requires communication with the SmartThings cloud. :slight_smile:

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I am reading this post with interest as I am in the same boat - since both vendors are part of this forum I’d like you to state what your unique selling feature/benefit is over your competitor?
Ease of use? A particular feature? Integration? …
@joshua_lyon @tgauchat
:slight_smile:

SharpTools.io has a number of unique features including a complete Rule Engine, integrations with Calendars, News Feeds, Other Platforms, Album Art and more.

The video from the SharpTools booth at this years Samsung Developer Conference linked above demos a number of these unique features:

Keep in mind that both products have a 14-day free trial, so I’d suggest getting hands on and trying things out yourself. :smiley:

Tagging @625alex from ActionTiles.

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This is really impressive! I didn’t know that SharpTools did all of that!

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Thanks @joshua_lyon, have dowloaded SharpTools and set it up - pretty good and user friendly.

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Just a heads up that the dashboards (like those shown in the video above) are accessible from any modern web browser at: https://SharpTools.io

We have an app on Google Play called SharpTools which is for widgets and integration with Tasker, a popular Android automation app. If you’re looking for the dashboards, be sure to visit https://SharpTools.io from a modern web browser. :grinning:

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I have actiontiles. I like it, but I may have to upgrade usage of tablets, instead of my Kindle fires. I’m not a fan of rooting network connected devices to make things work, and removing some of the security funcionality (maybe a bit paranoid) to do this. This makes the Kindle fires not ideal to use.

Another thing i would like to more easily do is integrate my ring feed when the doorbell rings. Another feature I’m working on is to figure out a way to show the family calendar.

Again, I tend to purchase smart home stuff cheap and have been trying to use more inexpensive tablets, which conflict a bit with my somewhat security mentality. I do have Alexa in my home, so maybe I’m sensitive on some things and not others…