# Setting Initial State without Classic App?

**URL:** <https://community.smartthings.com/t/setting-initial-state-without-classic-app/205502>\
**Category:** Devices & Integrations\
**Created:** [September 17, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/setting-initial-state-without-classic-app/205502 "2020-09-17T18:22:45Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 8:34pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/setting-initial-state-without-classic-app/205502/8 "2020-09-19T20:34:49Z")

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Ok, some community members are reporting that they are able to access the “offline” devices through the sharptools dashboard. See, for example,

> [@Smart Life integration (July 2020)](https://community.smartthings.com/t/smart-life-integration-july-2020/199597/153):
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> This is works for me with the device above: Create a ‘tap-to-run’ scene for each device you want to control in the smart life app. In my case it was each outlet of my power strips. Call them something without any special characters. Link the smart life service to smartthings using the new app. It might say it failed, but the smart life scenes you created above should show up as devices in smartthings with two Chinese characters added in the name- delete the Chinese characters. They will show as offline so they can’t be used in the app or added to automations. In smart tools, authorise/reauthorise your smartthings account and make sure you add the devices above. You can use them from the sharptools dashboard and in the sharptools rules engine. And also Tasker if you’ve paid for the…

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