[RELEASE] Universal Ecobee Suite, version 1.7.**

Barry,

I recently switched from a pair of Nest Thermostats to Ecobee3 Lites (with six smart sensors). The improvement was dramatic. However, the best part was your circulation manager. It has significantly improved the comfort within our home. As I understand it, it uses the difference between the maximum and minimum of the selected sensors to control the circulation minutes (per hour). This is very nice, because the system will heat/cool based on the average temperature and circulate based on the differential. I would like to have the option to circulate based on the differential between comfort level and the minimum (for heating) and the differential between the maximum and the comfort level (for cooling). In this way, the circulation would be based on the comfort outliers. Is this possible?

On the surface, it appears as if either method will perform the same task. However, our HVAC system accompanies our wood stove. The wood stove makes the nearby rooms nicely warm and sometimes well above the comfort level. We like those rooms at that level. I want to ensure that the other rooms don’t fall too much below our comfort level. Basing the circulation on the low outliers for heating and the high outliers for cooling makes perfect sense to me.

Marty

Barry,

Let me augment the above just a bit. I would like to every room in the house to be between the heating and cooling setpoints. This is my comfort range. I would like to use the circulation to minimize outliers of this range.

Marty

Have you actually set up and tried using Smart Circulation yet? I’m pretty sure that it will do what you want, without any changes.

See, if you configure temperature sensors in your “warm rooms” AND in your “cool rooms”, Smart Circulation will find the biggest delta between the highest and lowest 2 sensors, and then start increasing fanMinOnTime in hopes of reducing the delta between the highest and lowest 2 sensors (which can change - it’s always using the two with the biggest delta).

If you haven’t actually tried it, please do - you may be pleasantly surprised.

And if you have tried it, what is it that you observe that caused you to ask for this change?

Barry,

I noticed a very troubling discrepancy. My Ecobee App states that a particular smart sensor is at 74°F, but the IDE (using your sweet) lists it at 67.9°F. The information is coming from the same sensor. How could this be. I checked the thermostats and other sensors. Many of them show a discrepancy of over 1°F, and a couple of them are different by over 3°F.

Marty

Barry,

I have tried it. That is why I am asking for a change. You see, we have a wood stove in one of the rooms. The temperature in that room is often 76°F. A bedroom may be at 71°F while the comfort level is at 72°F. I want the fan to be keyed on the 1°F below the comfort range rather than the 5°F between rooms. The 76°F is within the comfort range. The 71°F is just barely outside the comfort range.

Marty

  1. What is your Ecobee Suite Manager / Polling Interval? Sensor data won’t update any faster than this, while the thermostat itself will display in near-real-time. I suggest running at a 1 minute polling frequency if you really need to have the most recent data.
  2. The Ecobee WebApp doesn’t always refresh itself, so you may need to reload the Thermostat page to get the current readings - otherwise it can be real out of date.
  3. Perhaps Ecobee Suite has lost its connection. Although rare, you may need to log into Ecobee and authorize again - even if Ecobee Suite Manager says that you are still connected.
  4. There might be a connection error or a code bug - please check Live Logging for Ecobee Suite Manager, Ecobee Suite Thermostat(s) and Ecobee Suite Sensors, looking for logged errors or warnings in any of them

Barry,

How do I get the thermostat to show up as a separate sensor? As you know, the temperature that the thermostat provides within WebCore is the average temperature of the selected sensors. The suite preferences state that one can get a separate sensor for the thermostat that provides the temperature at that thermostat. I selected that option, but i don’t see the separate sensor. What am i missing?

Marty

Hi all. I have two questions here, so hopefully you can help.

  1. I have noticed that Exobee Suite Manager logs me off sometimes, where I need to reauthorize. Not sure if it’s random or not, but anything I can do prevent this? I have not upgraded to the latest version yet (I am on 1.7.4) so not sure if that will help. I have had the same issues with Ecobee in general, so not sure if there’s a conflict or if it is just an ecobee issue.

  2. I am really only using this for away and resume based on my phone as presence sensor. I am running webCoRE as well. If that’s all I’m using it for, do I really need to continue with Suite Manager? Especially if I’m having reauthorization issues? Wasn’t sure if it was worth it (for me personally).

I am pretty sure you have an Ecobee issue, not an Ecobee Suite issue. Ecobee Suite will auto-reconnect if it can; if it can’t, you may have an internal connectivity problem, or a cloud connectivity problem.

To help, I need to see the Live Logging for Ecobee Suite Manager when you have been disconnected…

That said:

  1. You should update your code - 1.7.4 is about 40 releases ago.
  2. If you still have issues, verify that you can access your thermostat using the Ecobee Web App
  3. PM me the Live Logs for ES Manager showing the errors

Thank you for getting back to me so quickly Barry. I think you’re right and may be an Ecobee issue.

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