[RELEASE] Ultimate Mode Based Thermostat - Control Multiple Thermostats Temperature / Remote Temperature Sensors when Changing Modes


(Chandler Newby) #74

I checked the sensor status in the SmartThings app. It is reporting correctly. And the thermostat responds well to all my manual commands. I also see it reporting in the app.

I know that this is a mode based thermostat, but when using a remote temperature sensor, shouldn’t the app send signals to the thermostat to alternate between 45 degrees and 90 degrees based on the remote sensor’s temperature?
Another weird thing: If the app is in the “broken” state (by which I mean the remote sensor is below my set threshold, but the app still has the thermostat set to 45 degrees), and I go into the app settings and hit Next, then Save, it fixes itself. It checks the status of the remote sensor and then sets the thermostat accordingly (either to 45 or 90). But then it won’t update if the temperature changes on the remote sensor.

(Chandler Newby) #75

@RBoy I left the Live Logging on tonight and found something interesting. Here it is:

There’s a bunch of errors there every time it gets an update from the remote sensor.

(www.rboyapps.com - Make your home your butler!) #76

Thanks for that, will look into it and come back to you.

(Head of Support (rboyapps.com)) #77

Ultimate Mode Change Thermostat Temperature - Version 02.05.03

  • Fixed remote temperature sensor when using multiple modes
  • Optimize operations and compatibility with GoControl thermostats

Mode Change Thermostat Single Temperature - Version 01.01.00

  • < no change >

(Chandler Newby) #78

Fixes work. Thanks!

(David Hamilton) #79

Does anything dictate a mode change for Heat to Cool Automatically for the Ultimate Mode Based Thermostat Temperature Management? Or s this a manual change on each device? @RBoy

(David Hamilton) #80

Also it doesn’t seem to be functioning correctly. Its getting null error in notifications and setting my cool levels to 90!

(www.rboyapps.com - Make your home your butler!) #81
  1. Are you on the latest version
  2. 90 is normal when you’re using remote temperate sensors. See the posts above on how it works when using remote temperature sensors. It uses 45 and 90 for heat and cool respectively when using remote temperate sensors to control heating, cooling and idle to adjust until the remote temperature is at the desired temperature.

(David Hamilton) #82

Yes, latest’s version form your site. I must of miss-interpenetrated what Remote Sensors were used for. Ill go back and read it.

(David E Lawrence) #83

Hi @RBoy. I am new to SmartThings and even newer to your various apps. Please forgive my ignorance, but I’m a bit bewildered by all the different apps you offer and was hoping you might be able to direct me to the right solution.

  • I have four Trane Z-Wave TStats in parts of the house that are often unoccupied (guest room, etc.). I want them at a comfortable temp when occupied, and energy saving temp when not occupied.
  • I have two Ecobee 4 TStats (each with an additional sensor) both in parts of the house that are often occupied (first floor, master bedroom). I want these on a 5/2 (M-F, S-S) schedule with Home, Sleep, and Away temps.

My two questions are:

  1. Should I bother using SmartThings at all for programming the Ecobees? The Ecobee native programming seems like it would be more sophisticated (and simple to use) than tying it into ST, but perhaps I’m missing something?
  2. Which of your programs do you recommend for me? Just for the “unoccupied” TStats or for all of the TStats?

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!


(www.rboyapps.com - Make your home your butler!) #84

Completely depends on what features you need. If what you need is being met by the Tstats then you’re good. SmartThings integration has it’s own quirks and you should always look at the weakest link in the chain for any setup.

For your unoccupied or semi occupied rooms/floors I would recommend using the motion sensor based thermostat, you can define a timeout after motion is detected and use remote sensors. This should be the most efficient way to infrequently used thermostats.

You can also combine it with a regular 5-2 thermostat with a schedule or mode

[RELEASE] 5-2 Day Programmable Thermostat Scheduler (Weekday, Weekend) with Remote Temperature Sensor for each Schedule

The beauty of ST is the ability to combine smart apps to create custom scenarios. For e.g. you can use both the Motion and 5-2 day thermostat smart apps together like this:

  • When in mode home, use the 5-2 day thermostat (this is when you’re around the house/rooms and want it always temperature controlled) and have the motion based thermostat inactive
  • When in mode night (or any other mode, say weekend) the motion based thermostat is active and 5-2 day inactive, this way it only turns on when someone walk into the room

(David E Lawrence) #85

Thanks so much! I purchased a lifetime license and installed them in about 2 minutes. I’m looking forward to checking out the rest of your stuff!


(Justin Puffer) #86

Everything is working fine for me with 2 ecobee 3 lite thermostats. However, my message feed says “Null” for the temperatures it’s setting every time. I’m on the latest version. I saw above that a couple other people were having the same issue.

(www.rboyapps.com - Make your home your butler!) #87

That’s just a misprinted message, will patch it up in the next release. Purely cosmetic

Ultimate Mode Change Thermostat Temperature - Version 02.05.04

  • Patch displayed message showing temperature settings

Mode Change Thermostat Single Temperature - Version 01.01.00

  • < no change >

(Justin Puffer) #88

Works perfect now, awesome. Thanks for the quick reply and fix.

(Nick Snyder) #89

I sent you an email on at your support email but wanted to message here as well.

The issue I’m having is that it doesnt shut the heat off when it reaches temperature. I’m using an external temp sensor on two different thermostats and I have it set to 68. However, right now, the temps are 70+ and its still trying to heat my house. Any suggestions?

Just checked my log and found this.
7:33:52 AM: trace Thermostat Living Room Thermostat is in hold temperature mode, not making any changes to thermostat based on remote temp sensor

(www.rboyapps.com - Make your home your butler!) #90

Maddie responded to you, the SmartApp automatically goes into temporary hold mode if it detects that someone manually changed the temperature at the thermostat. In the next release we’ll add an option to the SmartApp to enable/disable the temporary hold feature.

(Head of Support (rboyapps.com)) #91

Ultimate Mode Change Thermostat Temperature - Version 02.06.00

  • Added option to enable/disable the thermostat temporary hold feature when using remote temperature sensors
  • Fixed an issue when selecting multiple thermostats without custom settings for individual thermostats

Mode Change Thermostat Single Temperature - Version 01.01.00

  • < no change >

(Chandler Newby) #92

I like the option to disable the temporary hold support. Is there any way this can be configured per mode? Some of my modes I’d like to be able to use temporary hold. Others, I don’t because it fails too often.

(www.rboyapps.com - Make your home your butler!) #93

We can definitely look into it, please send your feature requests to our support desk so we can prioritize them.