[RELEASE] Trend Setter

So I went into the IDE and readded this smartapp as a new app. The app is now listed twice in my app and if I go into IDE and try to remove the old one it still errors saying a user has it installed currently.

I can now both versions listed in MY APPS on the phone. Very odd. I guess what ever I broke in the first one was automatically fixed when I added it back.

Oddly enough I still only have one TrendSetter listed in My Apps under my home. I am still unable to remove it from the IDE.

I am still unable to remove LOCK IT WHEN I LEAVE and UNLOCK WHEN I ARRIVE. It is no listed in My Apps under My Home, just under My apps in marketplace. When I try to remove it in IDE it errors out.

Is there a way for me to create buttons on the desktop from these groups in trend setter? I would like to be able to have my wife have buttons for the different light groups on her phone desktop.

Hi,

Sorry for not responding sooner, I’ve been rather busy lately.

I’ll see what I can do when I get some time.

The colour temperature stuff could be tricky, I think the best I can do is check if a device has a particular command available (setColorTemperature for instance), but not sure how I would make it work if there were bulbs in the group that didn’t support it. I could possibly make it so that if ALL bulbs support it then the functionality is available to simplify things. The idea of the groupings is to normalise the devices into a common interface.

Sadly this isn’t possible at the moment. I can make tiles appear based on the devices in the group but I can’t actually make those tiles do anything to a specific device when interacted with as I can’t pass a reference for the device to the method. Even if I could, you would only be able to perform one binary function like on/off.

@chowder007 - Did you have any luck getting things working?

If you’re meaning the phones home screen, then no, there’s no way at the moment, I don’t think SmartThings app even has any widgets available that can do anything with individual devices, only routines.

It looks as though the latest update may have completely broken this SmartApp. I had to contact support as all of a sudden I didn’t have authorization to make changes. Then I try to create a new group and it creates and orphans a device under things and doesn’t show as installed under Smart Apps.

I don’t know what the hell they’ve done at the moment :frowning:

I can create a group, but it doesn’t show the group in the list initially, I have to back out and go back into the SmartApp for it to display. I can also no longer remove that group.

Have to say I’m not happy with the regressions that SmartThings regularly seem to introduce. It’s like they do no QA testing. If I did this sort of thing where I work, I wouldn’t have a job anymore.

This is pretty broken now… thanks SmartThings!

EDIT: Through no determinable method as I was just messing about trying to get things to happen. I’ve managed to delete my superfluous group. Things are still pretty screwed up though.

Anyone still having issues?

It seems to be working ok for me now apart from the lists not updating when you add a group unless you back out and go back in.

I haven’t made any changes.

Decided to set this to released since nobody has given any suggestion that it’s not working.

I know I haven’t added the additional features suggested yet, will get to it at some point.

People are always welcome to do some changes themselves if they feel able :slight_smile:

Hi
I like the goal of your app and will give it a try :slight_smile:
I would like to be able to control as much as possible from SmartTiles dashboard.
Are you aware of any way to control the light groups/dimmer /AND COLOR directly from SmartTiles dashboard?

I’m afraid I don’t know much about SmartTiles as I don’t use it. Sorry I can’t be more help.

Great app :slight_smile:
Very nice interface and easy to access :slight_smile:
I seem to have a problem with my RGB bulbs. When using your app, and for example trying to change to a warm white, the bulbs gives a strange blue color instead.

Currently I use officially DH for my bulbs:
For the whites: ZLL White Color Temperature Bulb
For the colored: ZigBee RGBW Bulb

Do you recommended another DH for these Osram bulbs?

Hi again

I’m still strugling with setting the kelvin white temp for my Osram Lightify GU10 Colour.
I dont know if it’s your app, because if I cannot change the white temp for just one of the bulbs alone.

I have tried both the “ZLL RGBW Bulb” and “zigbee RGBW Bulb” device handlers, and none of them provides a good method to set the kelvin for the white color (warm to cold).

Any idea?

Sorry, the ZLL RGBW Bulb DH gives the kelvin slidebar, which works great.

So would it be possible to have a kelvin slidebar in your “Colorful Light Group Device”?

Hey, sorry for not responding earlier. I think it was discussed earlier in the thread that implementing colour temperature could be problematic because not all bulbs are the same, they support different ranges of colour temperature or don’t render the colour temperature in quite the same way. I’m not sure if it would be possible for me to make it so it can determine what ‘mode’ the bulbs are in either as the capabilities don’t have an attribute for it.

Also would need to be aware that for those bulbs that don’t support colour temperature in the group, it would have no effect, trying to get an accurate colour temperature based on RGB values is difficult from what I’ve read.

I’m always happy for someone to submit a pull request if they want to try and make any enhancements of course if they think they can do it :slight_smile:

If I get time (which I find myself with little of) I’ll see if I can put something together with the assumption that all bulbs in the group are capable of colour temperature. I am not sure what range to use though as (as I said) some bulbs have different colour temperature ranges.

Hi Chris
Your right, it was mentioned about the coulour temp earlier.

I have seen more people using the “ZLL RGBW Bulb” device handler for these RGB with Whites bulbs.
So would it possible copy replicate the kelvin- functionallity the same way perhaps.

I would love to try it out myself, but dont have neither the time or skills :slight_smile:

My practical issue actually is that if I use your smartapp to make all my RGBW bulbs red, then I cannot use your app to get these back to a “normal” white colour.
My only way of getting them back to “normal” is to switch the physical switch off (power off) and then they go back to normal.

Any idea how to get them back to “normal” which I dont see?

Hi Chris

Any tip to how to get a group of RGBW bulbs back to a “normal” white, after they have been set to e.g. red?

EDIT: Ignore me, user error.

Hi Simon,

Can you not use one of the presets in the colour picker at the bottom? Since as discussed it doesn’t support colour temperature at the moment this might be the best bet for now.

Hi Chris

I believe I tried that some weeks yes.
Chosing a warm white, kinda yellow, would give my Osram GU10 RGBW bulbs a cold blueish white instead.

Now I’m guesing here:
My thought is that a RGBW bulbs has separate LEDs for the RGB and Whites.
And I fell like when I try to to go back to a “white”, then the bulbs used the RGB LEDs instead of the White LEDs, which gives a wrong color.
And using the kelvin slidebar under the single bulbs, shuts off the RGB LEDs and uses the correct White LEDs.
ONLY I guess. I have no idea :slight_smile:

@Kriskit - How do I delete a group once created? I installed all of the device handlers and the two SmartApps. I was never able to get this working. I now have two empty groups under my SmartApps list with your icon and named “Group”. No option to delete. Yea, I know it actually said you can’t delete it once created. Can I remove these somehow? I’d like to keep trying to get this to work, but I also don’t want a bunch of "Group"s in my SmartApp list I cannot delete.

EDIT: I figured out how to delete thanks to this thread…