[OBSOLETE] SHM Delay Version 2.0

arnb · October 9, 2018, 9:38pm

One option of the SHM Delay simulated keypad runs as a HTML page, so it may be possible to have both on a screen by using iframes. Have never tried or considered getting my simulated keypad to work directly with ActionTiles.

arnb · October 10, 2018, 3:11am

There is a hub firmware update to 0.24 scheduled for Thursday Oct 11, 2018.

I’m a beta tester and while using an earlier beta version of 24, the keypad’s network light would go out, and the keypad would fall off the network, and all the mode lights would blink (on /off/partial or icon lights on the Centalite) after entering a pin. Other than removing the keypad’s batteries there was no way to put the keypad back online.

However, by moving the acknowledgement response from the SHM Delay modules back to the keypad DTH I was able to cure the problem. So it appears this was a timing issue. Should you encounter this issue, the DTH is available in GITHUB arnbme SHMDelay beta. No changes are needed to SHM Delay modules

Please let me know if this issue occurs so I can have @zcorneli change the production keypad DTH.

chet · October 13, 2018, 3:04pm

Can you provide a link to the DTH? My Iris keypads do not work even after pulling out the batteries.

arnb · October 13, 2018, 3:24pm

github.com

arnbme/SHMDelay/blob/beta/devicetypes/mitchpond/centralite-keypad.src/centralite-keypad.groovy

/**
 *  Centralite Keypad
 *
 *  Copyright 2015-2016 Mitch Pond, Zack Cornelius
 *
 *  Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License"); you may not use this file except
 *  in compliance with the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at:
 *
 *      http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
 *
 *  Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software distributed under the License is distributed
 *  on an "AS IS" BASIS, WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. See the License
 *  for the specific language governing permissions and limitations under the License.
 *
 *  Sep 20, 2018 per ST tech support. Issue acknowlegement in HandleArmRequest
 *               disable routines: acknowledgeArmRequest and sendInvalidKeycodeResponse allowing SHM Delay to have no code changes
 *
 *  Sep 18, 2018 comment out health check in an attempt to fix timout issue  (no improvement) 
 *  Sep 04, 2018 add health check and vid for new phone app. 
 *  Mar 25, 2018 add volts to battery message

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chet · October 13, 2018, 3:25pm

Thanks. I am getting a blinking network light on both devices after installing the DTH.

arnb · October 13, 2018, 3:34pm

You may have to remove, initialize, then repair keypads. Instruction links in documentation at top of this thread.
This issue is different than what I encountered

Jhbchristopher · October 13, 2018, 9:35pm

Hi, I have lannouncer and bigtalker installed. Everything is working perfectly except when I get the delay exit message “you have 30 seconds to leave the building” it comes through multiple times along with the chimes. The result is “chime chime chime chime you you have have have have 30 seconds to exit the facility” lannouncer log is attached. I have 3 tablets set up, they are all working perfectly with other bigtalker notifications. Thanks in advance.

arnb · October 13, 2018, 10:36pm

That’s really strange.
However…
Please post the number of kepads and delay profiles being used

Jhbchristopher · October 13, 2018, 10:47pm

5 profiles and 1 Iris keypad.

arnb · October 13, 2018, 11:18pm

It appears you have found a bug.

My suggestion until this is corrected: keep the one profile for the main entry and exit door. Put the other doors contact back into SHM.

Jhbchristopher · October 13, 2018, 11:42pm

Thanks so much for looking into it. I can confirm removing all but one delay profile has corrected the issue.

gomedog · October 14, 2018, 6:01pm

Arnb- thanks so much for putting all of this together. I have a couple of motion sensors, but I also have pets that are left at home some of the time but not all of the time. Obviously, when they are left home, I can’t have the motion sensors active, but I’d still like to engage “Armed/Away.” In other cases, we take the pets with us, and would like to be able to use the motion sensors when engaging “Armed/Away.” What would be the best way to handle this in your opinion? Thank you.

arnb · October 14, 2018, 6:13pm

I would purchase a centralite keypad that has the three mode icons:
Away entry delay motion sensors monitored - with pets
Stay entry delay don’t monitor motions - pets home you away
Night instant alarm dont monitor motions - all home sleeping
There are instructions for setting up the additional shm mode in the documentation

gomedog · October 14, 2018, 6:50pm

Ok, very good. Easy solution. Thank you. Is that essentially the only difference between Armed/Home and Armed/Away - that motion sensors are engaged with Armed/Away?

arnb · October 14, 2018, 7:16pm

That’s correct ,but there’s nothing stopping you from using motion sensors in armed night or armed stay. It’s just a matter of how you set up SHM & SHM Delay

The main thing is you need three modes available on the centralite versus two that can be set using the iris keypad

gomedog · October 14, 2018, 8:46pm

I guess another difference between Arm/Away and Arm/Stay is that there is not an exit delay configured by default for Arm/Stay (because the assumption is that you’re not leaving presumably). Is that correct? If so, can that be configured somehow so that Arm/Stay can be used similarly to Arm/Away (but without engaging motion sensors)?

arnb · October 15, 2018, 4:22am

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I guess another difference between Arm/Away and Arm/Stay is that there is not an exit delay configured by default for Arm/Stay (because the assumption is that you’re not leaving presumably). Is that correct? If so, can that be configured somehow so that Arm/Stay can be used similarly to Arm/Away (but without engaging motion sensors)?
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You are correct, there is no exit delay with Armed/Stay. It would be possible to add custom code to both SHM Delay and Shm Delay Child to add an exit delay on Armed/Stay.

Another approach would be to use the Simulated Keypad on your phone so you could avoid a hardware purchase and set alarm after leaving your home. You could also use the ST App and just tap on a mode.

Brian_W · October 16, 2018, 12:09am

Hi arnb,

I’m new here and maybe I’m just overlooking something simple, but I don’t seem to be getting a delay when SHM is set for “Armed Stay”. Armed Away works great! If I set SHM for Armed stay, I cannot open my door as it will trigger my siren and routine for intrusion. My setup is very simple, I’m just using a Kindle HD running Actiontiles to arm and disarm my SHM. I’ve set the simulated contact in SHM to trigger in both stay and away (motion sensor set in away, not simulated) and setup the simulated contact in the smartapp per your instructions. Any ideas what could be causing this?

Thanks so much for this app. It has made my system work like I wanted. Even with this small hiccup, it has made my system 1000% better!

arnb · October 16, 2018, 2:45am

Please check and verify the following items:

In Smart Home Monitor Security for Armed (Away) unoccupied, and Armed (Stay) occupied:
Use every open/close … is set off/false;
The monitored sensor is not selected in Open/Closed sensors
in Shm Delay Global settings: True Night Flag is off/false

Should this not fix it.

In Shm Delay Global settings: Issue intrusion message with name…should be on/true
Run test that fails
In notifications what is the sensor causing the problem? Should not be the contact sensor. Ignore SHm messages about the simulated sensor.

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arnb · October 16, 2018, 1:04pm

Deprecated Oct 18, 2018. Beta release Oct 16, 2018 08:45M EDT

Changes and Updates

Support for RBoy Keypad DTH: Turn on flag in global setting when using the RBoy DTH.
When using a SHM Delay Talker profile: fixes sending multiple redundant non keypad exit talk messages to Lannouncer.
Note: When arming from a non-keypad device or source, and multiple delay profiles are set, the announced non-keypad delay is the minimum time coded on all delay profiles, since we don’t know which door you will be using to exit the facility. However, should a door open, the actual non-keypad delay time coded in the delay profile is used for the exit delay calculation. This is a compromise avoiding a substantial code change.

Installation: Please Update from the beta repo

SHM Delay V2.1.9 Save and Publish
SHM Delay Child V2.1.0 Save, do not publish

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[OBSOLETE] SHM Delay Version 2.0

Deprecated Oct 18, 2018. Beta release Oct 16, 2018 08:45M EDT

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