[RELEASE] Lock User Management (LUM)

@rcbjr2 you don’t edit (or even see) the codes: you just add, delete, or rename them. Neither RBoy or Samsung’s proposing SLGA’s equivalent to LUM or RLM, just working as an interim solution in the absence of a full migration.

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I agree, no obligation at all.

But that doesn’t mean I can’t be salty about being a paying customer who has to rely on other community members copy/pasting emails into the forum to get an update about something I rely on every single day. Seriously, why isn’t @Ben_Fletcher 's comment included in RBoy’s FAQ? This one comment has given me 100 times the information all of RBoy’s updates over the last 6 months have given me.

No developer has any obligation to any of us. @joshua_lyon is getting rid of his Tasker plugin app, which I was NOT happy to hear because I rely on it so much. But you know what? I respect the hell out of the guy for taking it head on, communicating with his customers, and not leaving us with radio silence to wonder what’s going on.


Thanks for posting this. I have been quite shocked that something as simple as this hasn’t been said yet. Do you have a rough time frame on availability? Is this something that is months out, or shortly after migration?

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SLGA gives some useful notifications on my phone, but I think the only way to use them seems to be Tasker and AutoNotification. I can’t find a way to react to the notification in a Routine. And I can’t seem subscribe to it in SharpTools. Anybody find a way to use a notice in a Routine? Thx.

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Lights go out tonight.

Will the lights go out? :sunglasses:


Appreciate you pointing out this announcement, I hadn’t seen that yet. I replied thanking ST for considering end user needs and asking that they monitor migration progress when setting their final shutdown date.

Hopefully this delay will give @RBoy the needed time to finish the migrations of all of his very helpful apps.


Looks like he updated his FAQ page in the last day or so, so this gives me hope that he’s still working on a new replacement for this app.

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No migration yet on my system that I can see across multiple hubs/locations. Looks like ending Groovy on 12/31/22 was more of a start to a slow roll migration.

Read my post above. ST made an announcement earlier in the week about the migration.

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I see that, but with no definite timeline attached it’s almost worse to announce this in the eleventh hour. For those of us using these groovy tools in production scenarios it’s critical to know when things are going to change so personnel and logistics can be coordinated. FWIW I do see some devices have already been moved over in the background to new drivers, which is encouraging.

My understanding is that in most cases transitioning a Groovy DTH to an edge Driver is a much simpler process than transitioning a groovy smartapp to a smartapp that runs with the new architecture.

For one thing, custom edge drivers are allowed to run on the customer’s own hub, but cloud hosting is no longer provided for custom smartapps and they are not allowed to run on the hub. So you have to figure out where and how you’re going to host the smartapp and how you’re going to tell other people to do that. That gets complicated. :thinking:

It’s not impossible, but it’s more than just recoding in a different language, the way edge drivers are.

Thanks @JDRoberts. If that’s the case, I assume it’s good sign when the ST API site shows a device executing locally vs online already? That’s not many other than the Samsung-branded hardware on my hubs, but could at least inform what devices to be concerned about going forward.

Groovy SmartApp Shutdown - Announcements - SmartThings Community

Does this mean that LUM might be gone sometime next week??

We need to hear from @RBoy to say what thier schedule is for the updated LUM.


There is no “button” beside the Rboys Smart App to “disable” as there is with other legacy smart apps. The only option is clicking the name opening the app and then selecting delete which I really didn’t want to do being hopeful this can eventually be transitioned.


After I reported the missing button thanks to someone it has now been fixed. However I am using the Smartthings Lock Management for one residence. It significantly pales in comparison to the Rboys app I use for other residencre! . The whole point of having the Smart Lock with Smartthings was so I knew IMMEDIATELY via a notification who unlocked the door!! PLEASE PLEASE make sure that functionality exists somewhere before decommissioning the existing functionality.

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I wonder if they are hung up on the new monetization/licensing model needed in Edge for their revenue? See Monetizing Edge Drivers - #4 by RBoy

They really should tell us what’s going on!

Groovy was shut down today. Lock User Management is disabled and we are now hanging with no replacement solution. What are you all doing to regain control of your locks?

Smart Lock Guest Access for code management.

New routines to handle relocking and open door notifications.

Have to rework my location modes and routines since there are no per user code actions. Won’t be able to tell the difference between the housekeeper opening a door vs an Airbnb guest vs a household member.

There appears to be more functionality in Sharptools that could allow specific actions for specific codes and other attributes, but it looks like you have to signup for their premium level and I’m going to wait to see if Rboy comes up with a solution some time soon before laying down money on a different solution.


Ftom what i read, rboy does have a solition & is working on it but he & maddie gwt an F for communicating updates. Actualt rhey would get lower then an F if there is such a thing.

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