[OBSOLETE: NEWER VERSION AVAILABLE] Konnected Security 2.0 - Connect Wired Alarm System Sensors and Siren to SmartThings - big update and new name!

Got it. Mine was labelled U3. Thank you. Garage door opener is up and running with Konnected. Thanks!

This project looks great and definitely fits my need to tie in some contact sensors to SmartThings. I’m new to ST but have some familiarity with the ESP8266 w/Arduino. So I tried it out on an Adafruit Huzzah Feather ESP8266 I had. Instructions provided in the installation guide on the Konnected website were easy and I got the Feather loaded with the latest firmware and src files and set up the WiFi. I did need to load a couple of Python tools, namely esptool and nodemcu-uploader. After booting up, I used Putty to monitor the serial connection and it loads fine and the Feather’s webpage is available on my LAN.

The next phase of setting up the Konnected SmartApp and saving and publishing it on the SmartThings web site also was very easy and went well, and I was able to load the SmartApp, however I am stuck in the screen discovering the device. There is a helpful troubleshooting guide for this issue on the website, but to no avail. I suspect the cloud app is not sending the device discovery command through to my SmartThings Hub (v2 US), or the hub is not sending the UPnP packets onto my LAN. Using WireShark on my LAN filtering ip.addr==239.255.255.250, I do not see any UPnP packets from the hub at all. My computer is joined to the UPnP multicast group and is seeing all UPnP traffic with WireShark, as I see UPnP traffic from my WiFi router and a couple of other PCs.

Does anyone have tips on troubleshooting this issue?

Other info and possible clues:

  • List events for my Location shows “Installed smart app ‘Konnected’ created” when I add the SmartApp through my iPhone, and “Installed smart app ‘Konnected’ deleted” when I remove it or back out of the menu. No other events related to the Konnected SmartApp.
  • Live Logs shows only “uninstall(): Uninstalling Konnected SmartApp” and “uninstall(): Removing Konnected Alarm device settings” when I remove the SmartApp or back out of the menu.
  • The Super LAN Connect SmartApp shows that a “deviceDiscovery” handler is being invoked a few times between noon and 2PM most days since I installed the hub and “Enable local child app discovery” is not selected. Appears to be a scheduled task, but doesn’t run every day or at the same time.
  • Under My SmartApps on the website, the Konnected SmartApp is listed with Status as Published, and OAuth as True, but Location is blank.
  • I can use the IDE Simulator to select my Location and install the app and move to the next screen for device discovery, but then it reports “discoverySearch”, “Nothing available to simulate.”
  • If I go back to the My SmartApps screen, the simulator has added my location to the Location field.
  • The SmartThings hub and iPhone app are both processing everything else related to my Zwave network just fine.
  • I have tried deleting the Konnected SmartApp and device handlers a couple of times, and changed from the original manual installation I did to now enable the GitHub integration with the same results.

I’ve seen this issue a handful of times. Almost always it’s a router issue. Some routers (particularly low-end Netgear routers) seem to have a hard time with multicast traffic from the LAN to WiFi. I’d suggest checking for a router firmware update, or playing around with any settings in your router that may be related to multicast, UPnP or IGMP snooping.

You were absolutely right! Thanks so much for the quick tip! I have a TP Link Archer C7 (V2), maybe two years old. There was new firmware from July (3.15.2 Build 170525 Rel.37571n). I believe it added one feature that I don’t recall seeing before, may be related. Now there is an IPTV setting called IGMP Proxy and it is enabled by default. Came up first time.

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Nate - i’m eagerly awaiting my KS order - cant wait to add my relic of an alarm system into ST Hub.

I’ve read in a few places reference to the lack of a delay. Given my keypad is inside the front door, and my Actiontiles tablet will be in the same place, is there any way to add a delay so that the alarm wont sound the siren until 30 seconds after the front door sensor is broken?

Not yet, but this is a often requested feature and something I’m thinking about how to solve.

You could also use the old, but still working, Smart Alarm SmatApp which has built-in entry and exit delays. I have a co-worker who has been using this SmartApp for years with no issues.

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The most current specialized SmartApp solution is:

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I can’t seem to find it on the Apple App Store :frowning_face:

That’s because it is not an app for your phone… :slight_smile: A “SmartApp” is SmartThings Groovy software that runs within the SmartThings framework. In the case of “Smart Alarm”, you’ll need to manually add this SmartApp to your SmartThings Developer IDE. The code is still available via @geko 's Github repository as shown below. Geko is no longer supporting this SmartApp, however it still works very well for my co-worker.

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Hey there, my first post!

Thinking of backing the project. Have a couple of questions

  1. Once the board is replaced with the Konnected board and hooked up, can the existing panel/controller (I have a Honeywell) be used alongside smartThings to arm/disarm the system ?
    i dont think so, but thought I’d ask anyway.

  2. Can the upgraded system be monitored if need be ? Say by ADT.

No. Konnected is designed to replace the old Honeywell system entirely.

Not by ADT (at least not yet), but SmartThings does have a partnership with Scout Alarm that allows for pro monitoring for a reasonable monthly fee. Konnected works perfectly with this integration, although it’s a SmartThings feature (not a Konnected feature). More info here: https://support.smartthings.com/hc/en-us/articles/209628283-Smart-Home-Monitor-Scout-Alarm

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Thanks for the reply and for this amazing offeirng.

Pledged towards the 12 zone system so I can control the existing 6 zones…and hopefully split up some combined window zones

You could:

  1. Just leave the old panel there and not use it.
  2. Remove the old panel, push the wires into the wall and repair the hole left behind.
  3. Replace the old panel with a kindle fire tablet running action tiles and use the wires to supply DC power for a USB charger.

Option 3 probably the coolest, search around its been done by many.

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This is awesome. Is there anyway to leverage a cell connection if internet/power is down? I am hesitant to make the move without that functionality.

Yep, see this article:
https://docs.konnected.io/security-alarm-system/faq/backup-battery-and-wifi/

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Yeah I soon realised that - I’m familiar with the community developed apps, I have installed many and in this case I went for SHM Delay - tested with simulated contacts and seems to work so far, but cant test for real until my Kickstarter order arrives in January

@heythisisnate - is it possible to use a keypad to arm/disarm the alarm? The delay from SHM Delay is great, but if for some reason my phone crashes, or action tiles goes down, or home wifi dies I wont be able to arm/disarm the alarm. I prefer the physical method using a pin number to arm and disarm my system.

If your home wifi dies then you’re not gonna get the door status, window status, etc over the smart things anyway.

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Not useful, and incorrect. Wifi is not the same as internet. Wifi is a RF method of connecting to the LAN, like Ethernet is a hardwired method. You can loose wifi (range, signal quality/noise, jamming) but the router and ST hub will still have perfectly good internet connection.

And when I’m standing at my front door trying to get in out of the rain, I don’t really care about the status of my connected things, I just want to turn the alarm off. So my question to nate was wether I can connect a keypad to the Konnected board to disarm it without having to rely on the SHM app.

You do understand that the konnected panel uses Wi-Fi to connect to the hub and that you need both wifi and Internet working for them to communicate, correct? And without both then like I said it’s not gonna matter, your alarm will not go off if the door Opens even if your system is armed. So I’m not sure how my answer is incorrect when you asked how do I disarm my panel if my wifi is dead.

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