[Release] Echo Speaks v3 + Actions

Well that’s what I thought too. Essentially it is working through the piston and monkey because it’s announcing my text, but it’s just not adhering to my ifs/or within the piston.

If you pause the piston do you still get the announcement?

As far as I can see, unless you created a Monkey with a similar name to your contact sensor, your Alexa routine is being triggered directly by the contact sensor and not by Voice Monkey. I can’t even see a Monkey name in the URL.

Maybe I’m creating the routine wrong then?
What are you supposed to put as the trigger within the Alexa routine? My kitchen open/close contact sensor? Then the Monkey skill as the action?

I’ll test tomorrow if it works when I pause the piston. I never thought of trying that.

Here is my monkey set up.
I only have one and it’s this one. It is within the URL and the echo does announce the text I gave it. It’s just announcing it every time and not looking for my ifs within the piston for some reason.

Voicemonkey will create a virtual doorbell smart device in Alexa called “arlo cameras” which is the name of your monkey. Your routine is triggered when that virtual doorbell is “pressed”, and it is “pressed” by a properly formatted web GET request in Webcore.
The virtual doorbell will be listed under “smart home” as your trigger in the routine.
To get one echo to talk, the action is open the voice monkey skill, like you had it. To make an announcement on multiple devices, go to messages, announcement, select which echos to announce to and your the text on the Alexa side. Or, To make custom announcements on multiple echos, make a monkey for each echo, Then send multiple get requests to reach one. Your announcements won’t be synchronized with that method though.

I’ll try to write up a post on a new thread on all the ways to use Voicemonkey to not bog this one down too much.

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How do you tie voice monkey to Alexa routines? How do you make it play announcements instead of notifications like ES?

I’ve created a new thread to discuss voicemonkey here Alexa Voicemonkey Skill with instructions, that may help some looking for alternatives to Echo Speaks.

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You need to remove the Echo devices themselves that were setup by the app from all Smartapps. In Webcore, remove the Echo’s by unselecting them as available devices. If you had them in lock user manager, remove them from there as well. If they are still linked to any smartapps or automations, they won’t delete. Removing Echo speaks will automatically remove those devices, but it will fail if they are still linked to other smartapps. I’ve added and removed the EchoSpeaks app a few times to see exactly what Samsung did to kill it. They didn’t uninstall it or block its installation from our accounts, but they firewalled off certain links it was speaking too. Its odd what still works and what doesn’t. Its like they planted little mindfields all over parts of what the code was using.

It’s because they reverted the block because of issues. I’ve been told they will be reimplementing the removal again this week

Well, at least they’re finally communicating with you. Still a real shame they didn’t give you more notice about this.

Well, I kind of was being told but didn’t catch on…

Jody was asking me if I was working on a new endpoint version of the app, but I wasn’t reading between the line.
I just assumed i was being pushed because of the groovy deprecation. I wasn’t fully aware of the impact of ES on the platform. If I had been consulted about the high resource load I would have released a lite version months ago.


It looks to me like you have the Alexa routine being triggered by the door sensor and not by the monkey. (The monkey becomes a smart home device, and becomes ‘pressed’ when the URL is triggered. )

The last message you sent to the monkey remains in place until you replace it, so if you ‘Alexa, open voicemonkey’ then you will get the last message sent.

What I think is happening is that you open your door, Alexa picks up on the door opening and runs the routine which causes the voicemonkey app to retrieve the last message sent.

Yeah that’s exactly what I was doing. I had the actual open close sensor in the routine. Stupid me.
Can’t believe I didn’t notice that.

Anyone else having trouble installing this App? I get the Community installer set up and I get the Echo Speaks app installed. However when I try and launch the app I’m getting “We’re having trouble connecting. Check your network connection and try again.”

The “Echo Speaks” community app was blocked from running by Samsung on Sept 8th due to its excessive cloud server usage.

The developer is working on a “Lite” version, but no ETA at this time.

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yup my app suddenly stopped speaking I can’t even uninstall. to make matters worse the classic app is being discontinued I hope the dev makes it compatible with the new one.

That’s certainly the intention. From what he’s said above, a large amount of the time being spent on the lite version is about redoing the front end.

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Yep he’s actively posting in the dev area about troubles with making the presentation right per the new CLI/SmartApp capabilities. It’s unfortunately not going well/to plan.


I hate to be asking for help here but I know many of you are also scrambling for alternatives to restore the functionality ES brought to your SmartHome. I noticed that the Alexa Routines could only trigger on contact sensors and motion sensors and I noticed that the virtual switch/contact sensor combos I created a custom device handler for my MyQ Garage opener scenario show as triggers for Alexa Routines.

This got me thinking, I should be able to create another virtual device with that device handler so that SmartThings can turn on a switch and that will create an “open contact” for Alexa Routines to see. It worked great for a couple of days, then the performance seemed to degrade where the Alexa Routine lagged behind the trigger of the contact sensor by 5 minutes or more and then finally, it just stopped working all together.

I can certainly make a new standalone post for this but I figured the visibility here might help others in the same boat. Anyone know why a SmartThings contact sensor can’t trigger an Alexa Routine anymore?? It’s certainly not as elegant a solution as ES but at least it got me through the withdrawals…My house is too quiet for me now, I miss all the notifications for all the things! :frowning:

I think this is what you’re looking for @WRXFanatic

Thanks but I’m already down that path. When my very similar device handler stopped working, I switched it over to this one and it hasn’t changed functionality. I even tried removing the voice assistant integration from SmartThings and re-add it to make sure I was using the correct integration and it’s made no difference.