[OBSOLETE] Aeon Labs Multifunction Siren

Thanks. I was also looking at that but it doesn’t look like the receiver has a battery backup. Not that the power goes out much here, but you never know.

[quote=“leanbarton, post:58, topic:40652”]
I was also looking at that but it doesn’t look like the receiver has a battery backup.
[/quote]You are correct, it doesn’t have a battery backup and its loudest setting is probably still not as loud as the sirens lowest setting.

The one benefit to not having a battery is that it allowed me to make the other DH support the Presence Sensor capability so you can use it to get notified when your power or internet goes down.

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[quote=“mooch91, post:55, topic:40652”]
I can’t get my rules to reliably turn off the siren
[/quote]I’m still looking into reproducing your problem, but I’m curious about the purpose of the virtual switch.

If you’re using the virtual switch so that you can use the regular Security feature in SHM and always have it play the beep before sounding, there’s an easier way to do that.

Set the Siren setting “Play Beep Schedule Before Sounding Alarm?” to true. That way in SHM you can use the normal “Alert with Sirens” alarm notification and the siren won’t sound until after the beep schedule finishes.

If you want to be able to detect when the alarm doesn’t get cancelled you can use the siren’s switch.on property because that won’t get turned on unless the siren ends up going off.

The virtual switch is the siren set by SHM. Rather than set the siren to go off directly, I want it to set the virtual switch on. It seems to be doing that just fine.

I am looking to have two different responses depending on which mode SHM is in.

When it’s in AWAY mode, I want the rule to give me 30 seconds of beeps on the siren, followed by the siren.

When it’s in STAY mode, I want the rule to give me the siren immediately.

It’s been working fine, EXCEPT for when I go to “DISARM” the alarm while it’s beeping in AWAY mode. The rule is executing the FALSE commands (I see my virtual switch go off, for example), but it rarely stops the beeping (and then ultimately the siren).

If I “DISMISS” the alarm in SHM it shuts off just fine. If I turn off the siren switch manually, it also shuts off just fine.

I think it’s some sort of timing or confusion thing. I also have a set of rules that plays Beep4 when the alarm is armed or disarmed. Since I’ve shut off the one for disarm, the DISARM function is working fine to turn off the beeping.

[quote=“mooch91, post:62, topic:40652”]
I am looking to have two different responses depending on which mode SHM is in.
[/quote] The beep before alarm feature was something I quickly through together so there’s probably a bug and I’m testing it now.

The more pieces involved the more potential there is for a rule to fail so I wanted to make sure you weren’t re-creating a feature that was already built in, but the different behavior based on away vs stay makes total sense.

That being said, when I’m not home, I want a delay of 30 seconds when I open a specific door, but not if someone comes in through a door I don’t use or a motion sensor goes off.

For away mode, I have SHM set to monitor all doors except for the one that I enter/exit from. For that door I use the Custom Monitor in SHM which uses the delayed alarm.

I’m not saying that’s the best way to do it or that the virtual switch concept isn’t working fine, it’s just something to think about.

I’ll let you know what I find with my testing.

[quote=“krlaframboise, post:64, topic:40652, full:true”]

I may also try delaying (through Rule Manager) my DISARM beep to see if that has any effect.

[quote=“mooch91, post:65, topic:40652”]
I may also try delaying (through Rule Manager) my DISARM beep to see if that has any effect.
[/quote]I just remembered that the other reason I’m not monitoring my entry/exit door with SHM Security is that I didn’t want to have to dismiss an intrusion alert every time I come home.

I setup SHM using the same settings as you and created a rule using a virtual switch just like the one you posted, but I can’t reproduce the problem. The application could have a bug that only happens with specific beep settings.

Can you enable logging and then post the Live Logging output of a failure? SHM spits out tons of events so if you could clear it before testing and then post the output filtered by the siren and then filtered by the Rule, that would be great.

This is a good one, didn’t think of it…

Here are the logs from an event that failed to shut off the beeps:

Siren
58bdf29b-7b81-4b32-a6f7-0ef97d91f6a5 ‎12‎:‎23‎:‎31‎ ‎PM: debug Beep Delayed Alarm Cancelled
58bdf29b-7b81-4b32-a6f7-0ef97d91f6a5 ‎12‎:‎23‎:‎28‎ ‎PM: debug Beeping [sound: 3, volume: 1, repeat: 1, repeatDelayMS: 1000, beepLengthMS: 50]
58bdf29b-7b81-4b32-a6f7-0ef97d91f6a5 ‎12‎:‎23‎:‎25‎ ‎PM: debug Beeping [sound: 3, volume: 1, repeat: 1, repeatDelayMS: 1000, beepLengthMS: 50]
58bdf29b-7b81-4b32-a6f7-0ef97d91f6a5 ‎12‎:‎23‎:‎21‎ ‎PM: debug Beeping [sound: 3, volume: 1, repeat: 1, repeatDelayMS: 1000, beepLengthMS: 50]
58bdf29b-7b81-4b32-a6f7-0ef97d91f6a5 ‎12‎:‎23‎:‎19‎ ‎PM: debug Beeping [sound: 3, volume: 1, repeat: 3, repeatDelayMS: 100, beepLengthMS: 100]
58bdf29b-7b81-4b32-a6f7-0ef97d91f6a5 ‎12‎:‎23‎:‎18‎ ‎PM: debug Beeping [sound: 3, volume: 1, repeat: 1, repeatDelayMS: 1000, beepLengthMS: 50]
58bdf29b-7b81-4b32-a6f7-0ef97d91f6a5 ‎12‎:‎23‎:‎15‎ ‎PM: debug Beeping [sound: 3, volume: 1, repeat: 1, repeatDelayMS: 1000, beepLengthMS: 50]
58bdf29b-7b81-4b32-a6f7-0ef97d91f6a5 ‎12‎:‎23‎:‎15‎ ‎PM: debug Starting Beep Schedule [beepEverySeconds: 3, stopAfterSeconds: 30]
58bdf29b-7b81-4b32-a6f7-0ef97d91f6a5 ‎12‎:‎23‎:‎15‎ ‎PM: debug Starting Beep Delayed Alarm
58bdf29b-7b81-4b32-a6f7-0ef97d91f6a5 ‎12‎:‎23‎:‎10‎ ‎PM: debug Beeping [sound: 3, volume: 1, repeat: 3, repeatDelayMS: 100, beepLengthMS: 100]

Rule
69a77de3-0c44-45bc-a9de-71af37164863 ‎12‎:‎23‎:‎19‎ ‎PM: info Alarm activated (away): Siren switch switch off
69a77de3-0c44-45bc-a9de-71af37164863 ‎12‎:‎23‎:‎19‎ ‎PM: info Alarm activated (away) is now False
69a77de3-0c44-45bc-a9de-71af37164863 ‎12‎:‎23‎:‎19‎ ‎PM: info Alarm activated (away): alarm system status alarmSystemStatus off
69a77de3-0c44-45bc-a9de-71af37164863 ‎12‎:‎23‎:‎15‎ ‎PM: info Alarm activated (away) is now True
69a77de3-0c44-45bc-a9de-71af37164863 ‎12‎:‎23‎:‎14‎ ‎PM: info Alarm activated (away): Siren switch switch on
69a77de3-0c44-45bc-a9de-71af37164863 ‎12‎:‎23‎:‎10‎ ‎PM: info Alarm activated (away): alarm system status alarmSystemStatus away

Did the alarm sound or did it just not stop the beeps right away?

Alarm didn’t sound because I manually stopped the beeps before it would start. It would have sounded.

Still thinking it’s a timing thing… I put a 3-second delay on the triple-beep rule (Beep4) that I have activate whenever the systems arms or disarms. With that in effect, the beeping/alarm has not yet failed to shut off when activated.

When I looked at your log and saw the different beep in the middle, I figure that’s what was happening. You’re correct it’s a timing issue, but it’s possible due to a flaw in my design which I can fix.

The problem will be fixed in version 1.4. Thanks for reporting the problem and helping me troubleshoot it.

I just released version 1.4 which should solve the problem you were experiencing, but let me know if it doesn’t.

This version allows you to specify 0 for the beep delay and length so that no delay gets applied. This allows for shorter beeps, but without the delay, you may find that the beeps occasionally run together.

I also changed the custom beep sounds because some of them were way too long to be useful.

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Is there any way to turn off the Aeon siren at the device itself should it get in to an uncontrollable state?

I bought this siren because it had the battery backup, and I could put it in an outlet 14’ in the air below my palladium window. Both measures can prevent it from being intentionally disabled. At the same time, with the recent ST/SHM issues, I’m concerned I could get a false alarm that my wife wouldn’t know how to stop. I’d like to prepare her for what to do should that ever happen.

Yes, there’s a button on the bottom, the one you press to pair it, and either pressing it or holding it in turns off the alarm.

I don’t suppose it’s possible to control the alarm and strobe independently?

Device handler is still working well for me!

Unfortunately it’s not possible with this device.