Recommendation for a $100 outdoor camera?


#1

Desired specs:

  • around $100
  • z-wave connection to ST
  • motion sensor can see through glass 80 feet away and can be limited in range if detects further away
  • 120 + degree of filming and motion detection
  • night vision that works and 1080P (useable quality image)
  • autofocus on moving subject
  • SD card slot for local recording + cloud recording
  • past recording remotely accessible
  • no fee whatsoever
  • possibility to record on various cloud accounts like Box, G Drive, OneDrive etc

#2

Doesn’t exist for your spec list.

Zwave is designed for tiny low energy messages sent over a mesh network which means no guaranteed sequencing. Completely inappropriate for video or audio streaming. There are no Zwave cameras. Video requires high energy big messages in a forced sequence.

There are some cameras on the official compatibility list, but they all use WiFi (which is excellent for high power large messages in a specific sequence).


#3

Also, most motion sensors in the residential price range can’t detect through glass because they use IR detection.

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Arlo-Knowledge-Base/Will-motion-detection-work-through-glass-windows/ta-p/63

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There are video analysis systems that can detect through glass but they are very expensive and typically require multiple cameras and a computer to analyze the results. You do see them in some commercial high-security installations, but I’ve never seen one used in a regular home. I would expect the minimum cost to be at least seven or $8000.

There are many inexpensive cameras that will have no problem recording video through a window, they just won’t trigger on motion, so some people do combine those with a detector device outside the window, either a motion sensor zone, or a laser trip, or even a pressure mat of some kind. So that can be a good alternative set up for some use cases.


#4

So how do cams connect to the hub, via their IP on the wifi network?


#5

Some people also use cloud to cloud integration. I honestly don’t know if there’s a LAN connection possible. @pstuart or @slagle might know.

https://support.smartthings.com/hc/en-us/articles/205380804-Video-integration-with-Hub-v2-FAQ


#6

Looks like I need an outdoor cam with integrated motion detector then. All I want to do is trigger a couple events via the ST hub when the cam is activated.


#7

Hello
I have a Smarthings system installed in my condo. The condo is on the 2nd floor and looking for a compatible video camera to install outside my front door. I would to see who is at the front, the camera must be a true wireless (battery) and be weather proof (cold temp area) with built in two way-talk and advance motion audio detection.
The only thing I have found that is close is Arlo video camera. It wireless uses battery’s and is weather proof for cold areas but doesn’t have built in two way-talk and advance motion audio detection.
Or video out video doorbell same compatibly as above
larsenjl1948@gmail.com


(Darryl) #8

Check out Hikvision Camera’s. They have fairly good motion sensor/event triggering. It can’t be integrated into SmartThings, but if you want to work on it a bit, I believe it would connect to SmartTiles.

I love my 2 Hikvision Camera’s, and intend to get 1-2 more.


#9

Hikvision is the way to go. Great product and a great price. I have mine connected to SmartTiles. I do not believe there is video support available for any camera that is not listed as supported by ST.


(Darryl) #10

Correct. Though, the release of the HTML/JavaScript features in SmartThings may/should change that. I personally would jump at building an HTML5/JS tile to pull from my hikvisions or my QNap NAS.


#11

Another item to be cognizant of is the amount of throughput your Internet connection is capable of. The two cameras I have added to SmartTiles pull a total of ~40Mbps to stream. If your upload cannot sustain that much throughput, you could also look into stop-motion for the cameras instead. I can already imagine the posts that will come in about not being able to view the cameras outside of their network once live video support is added.


(Darryl) #12

Wow, you do realize the multiple video streams can be tuned for better performance, correct? My phones get a smaller stream, to minimize the bandwidth (Stream 2). I record Stream 1 (high def) to my NAS. The lower bandwidth stream is at a lower FPS, and resolution, which is more than adequate for on-demand review from the phone.


#13

Yes, I am aware. I don’t use the stream on my phone. It’s only used on the tablets in the house or while I am at work. For me, bandwidth is not a concern. Thanks for the heads up, though.


(Tim Slagle) #14

Both are possible. Some like LAN over Cloud since it doesn’t leave the network.


#15

Hi, I’ve recently started smartthings and smarttiles and everything is going great. One thing that I hope to include as a tile is a video feed. I have not been able to get my hikvision camera to appear in smarttiles. Can you please share how you were able to connect your hikvision camera to smarttiles? btw, I have the hikvision bullet camera (DS-2CD2042WD-I). Thanks in advance.


#16

I use BlueIris with my cameras, so I use the feeds from BlueIris.


#17

Thank you for the tip. I experimented with Blue Iris and was able to create a smarttile using the no authentication setting from Blue Iris web server (http://external_dns_name:port/mjpg/cam1). Were you able to get yours to work with authentication? If so, how did you pass along the username/password in the url? Thanks again.


#18

https://1.2.3.4:12345/mjpg/garage/video.mjpeg?user=readonly&pw=SomeCrappyPassword

Not sure if there is a way to pass an encoded password to BlueIris. I typically only use SmartTiles when I am on the LAN, so clear text isn’t much of an issue.


#19

I got it working using the querystring parameters that you provided. The trick was to ensure that the “Secure only” option is unchecked. Thank again for your help.


#20

Just a quick update that the Arlo camera is now officially supported and also has an IFTTT channel. It’s more often in the $125 - 150 range than $100, but has a lot of nice features and might be worth considering.