Rats that’s interesting that the lightify bulbs don’t seems as warm as you like. I’ve been swapping an orange cfl into my bathroom sconce at bedtime for teeth brushing and night time bathroom trips, but I don’t know what color temperature that is. But I’ve seen 2700K bulbs and they are obviously much cooler than an orange bulb. So maybe there is no bulb that goes from bright daylight to really warm, close enough to orange/blue blocker warm. So if I punt on orange/blue blocker warm, I would still like a really cool, daylight color during the dark, cloudy days and a warm temperature in the evening.
So I gather that the problem with cutting power to the bulb is that it turns on at factory default color instead of the color it was last when turned off. And then I don’t know how and how quickly it would be updated to the desired color. Even a flash of factory color on turn on would be really undesirable.
I saw that @Kristopher made a super go at updating non-volatile bulb memory with a new scene before powering off, but if I understood his report correctly the bulb still came on with factory defaults (am I just simple-minded, or would this feature make this technology work for so many more people?)
Interesting your solution with the philips BR30 warm glow. That sounds like a great evening to bedtime solution. I’m not sure where I would use it though, because I would prefer a 3500K evening and really want a daylight for daytime.
So do I understand that the switch-like, old-school lighting control experience that people have working are:
- Smart switch controlling each smart bulb circuit (one or more smart bulbs per switch).
The switch always has power and always knows the scene state. When you turn on the smart switch, it tells the bulb to come on at the desired temperature and dim.
Upside – the bulb always does the right thing when switch is switched. Is this true?
Downside – smart switches are expensive and 3-4 per room add a lot of cost. And there are fewer 3-way and 4-way smart switches and they are even more expensive. Is this true? What are some specific examples of smart switches that work successfully – are they that expensive?
- Child-lock or otherwise block all the regular, dumb switches to always on, and duplicate them all with smart button controls. Bulbs always have power. The smart button control tells the ST hub what to tell the bulb to do.
Upside – the right thing happens when using the smart button controls.
– Aesthetically somehow you have a full set of old-school switches (maybe blocked or marked) and a set of smart button switches.
– If the home automation parts are not working/offline/mucked for some reason lighting is non-operational.
– Cost. 3-4 smart button light circuit controls per room is expensive. Is this true? What are specific examples of scene selector smart button controls that can do off + day program + evening program + bedtime program?
Do I have this right? Is it the lack of scene storage in bulb non-volatile memory + the cost of smart switches and smart button controls what pushes people into more elaborate designs with motion sensors, timer programs and getting your phone or tablet out to turn lights on and off (of course that’s just how some people want it to work too)?