[OBSOLETE] Lock User Management (LUM)

@maddie @RBoy Any updates? We appreciate all you all do. Would be helpful if there was more of an update section on your website. I know timelines can be tough, but any info is better than no info. Thanks!

How/where did you get the new code?

Not sure what you mean? I bought an original license. Logged on to Rboy’s website w/ my credentials and enrolled for the new Device Driver.

I’m logged in as well, but don’t see where to enroll for the new Device Driver. Thanks for the quick response btw.

Click on this link to login to RBoy’s site, and there will be a link in the first bullet point where you can enroll and install the new driver.

The new driver is for replacing the universal device thing handler, not lum. Correct?

Correct. Just a driver, not an app.

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I have installed the new RBoy beta drivers for my Schlage Z-Wave Camelot door lock. It shows the following controls:

  • Lock State: Locked
  • Code Entry: Enabled
  • Audio: Enabled
  • Auto Lock: Enabled
  • One Touch Lock: Enabled
  • Alarm Mode: Off
  • Tamper Alert: Not Tampered
  • Battery: 88%

I have LUM still installed from before (v07.15.05) , and reconfigured to work with my new Schlage Door Lock device. However, I still see the “No network connection” error when I try to enable LUM.

How do I get LUM to work with the new RBoy beta drivers?

Thanks!

You don’t. All Groovy SmartApps were shutdown in January of 2023.

OK … So, are there instructions somewhere on how I use the new RBoy beta drivers to manage user access to my door lock?

The beta driver and the paid production version offer different features. Lock code slot IDs and names are not exposed for Routines in the beta version for example.

You should refer to this topic [RELEASE] Universal Enhanced Z-Wave Lock Driver for Schlage, Yale, Kwikset, IDLock, Popp, Danalock, August Pro, Ke starting at post 1591 for information about the different driver capabilities. There are also some examples of Routines using the paid production version of the driver.

Adding codes in the ST app is done using the Smart Lock Guest Access (SLGA) tile. It offers only adding/deleting codes with none of the features that were offered in LUM.

Oh, great. So after studying up for days trying to figure out a way to program my Schlage lock to restrict access to certain hours of the day, and being pointed in the direction of Rboy, I paid for the Rboy drivers only to discover that they really don’t do anything more than the smart things app already does! (Not only that, I signed up for a $6 monthly fee for Rboy, and have to realizing this was a waste of time dead end that there’s no way to unsubscribe, apparently, on the Rboy website.) What am I missing? All I want is a way to restrict user access to my building based on time of day. Is there an app out there that still does this? Can anyone help me? And I’m not a home automation techie so plain English would be a big help. Thanks in advance.

It’s annual.

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Sorry you got sent in the wrong direction.

There is no native ST capability for time based user lock codes and Rboy has not released a replacement for LUM in the new architecture. No-one has created another ST app that can do time based codes either.

Some people are using other third party solutions that support time based codes like Seam or lockmanager.io . Others are using Sharptools to add and delete codes at specific times to emulate the behavior formerly in LUM. @bthrock is using an app that is supported on the Hubitat platform and an Edge driver that can uses the ST APIs to synchronize devices between the two platforms (requires s Hubitat hub).

That’s the current state, unfortunately.

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I was using lockmanager.io, but after my locks finally converted to Edge drivers lockmanager.io was not able to remove/add codes. I kept getting failed to update notices. Since I was only using it for the limited purpose of deleting/adding a code for our cleaners, I just deleted it and starting using SharpTools instead.

One minor clarification. HubiThings Replica does not use any specialized Edge drivers. It simply subscribes to existing SmartThings devices, in the same way that SharpTools does. There is another program, Mira, which uses custom virtual devices to mirror Hubitat-based devices.

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Thanks, bruce. Appreciate the help. I’ll keep plugging along. It just seems strange. I’ve run across so many posts on different forums from people who are trying to do this exact thing. Like, allowing a nanny to have access to the house from 8:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. or being able to restrict a house cleaner to the hours of 1:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. etc. Just blows me away that none of the major players don’t include this in their basic suite of capabilities.

Like others have said above, SharpTools can perform the basic functionality of automatically adding and deleting codes at specific times. I personally have been able to recreate all of the features that I need that LUM used to perform with SharpTools and the built in SmartThings functions. My needs were pretty basic though and never needed the rental lock automator functions.

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Thanks, Creeker! I’m going to check it out. Much appreciated!!

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