[OBSOLETE] Hue motion sensor (use ST hub, but no hue bridge)

do I need to delete things from my new app to use the classic one? or anyother tips before I dive head first into it

No, they are two different ways of accessing the same account. So if you look in the IDE (the web access to your SmartThings account) everything is the same no matter which app you are using.

But the rules engines are quite different and you set up your automations through the mobile app, so different devices are recognized at the app level by the two different apps, which can definitely be frustrating.

There are some people who are using both, especially if they have a Samsung appliance or Samsung smart television, since those don’t work well with the classic app.

See the following:

thank you. i think it may be an issue with the code im using because im getting “tiles missing” and when I click on the edit button i get “error fetching device. please try again”



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metadata {
definition (name: “hueMotionSensor”, namespace: “bogdanalexe90”, author: “bogdanalexe90”) {

simulator {
	// TODO: define status and reply messages here

tiles {
	// TODO: define your main and details tiles here


// parse events into attributes
def parse(String description) {
log.debug “Parsing ‘${description}’”



I am curious on how fast this thing works. Just spend days in webCoRE setting up my lights and other devices, but the Hue Motion sensors and corresponding lights turn on very slow and one at a time (popcorn effect) and since I have 9 lights (GU10) in my hallway that is not gonna work.

WAF was very low on that setup , so had to return to using Hue bridge which works flawless with the limitations it comes with.

I would really like to get everything working through ST and webcore, but the above experience is a deal breaker, so before returning to St I would like to hear about your experience.

Thanks in advance

@Daniel_Panduro this is the exact reason why I’ve left ST after 2 years and gone for Hubitat. Reaction speed is not, and never will be, great on ST because it’s not doing local processing. Hubitat is only local processing and the speed is instant and all lights in a rule come on at the same time. As an example - with ST I would go up my stairs and only when half way to three quarters of the way up would the hallway lights come on. With Hubitat, as soon as my foot is on the first step both lights come on together. Sensor positions haven’t been changed so same physical setup between ST and Hubitat

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What kind of lights are you using?

@Townsmcp Just read about Hubitat yesterday but unfortunately this is not available in Denmark :-/
I am, though, especially interested in running Hubitat with webcore on RPI, but this will need to wait until the availabillity changes.

@TonyFleisher All Hue GU10 bulbs

I do think it is available in Denmark. I seem to remember someone asking that same question on the Facebook page - all stock is held in the US and shipped globally.
Just a word of caution with WebCoRE though - apparently it impacts performance of Hubitat a lot. I haven’t installed WebCoRE myself as I’ve been able to convert all pistons to Rule Machine

I see I can get it on Amazon at least (though I am worried about taxes). The issue is, as far as I know, zigbee and z-wave protocols in US and EU are different but I will have to look into that a bit further.

If the rule engine on Hubitat is sufficient I will stay away from webcore at least where I need full speed as I do with the issue posted here.

Thanks a lot for your input.

Are you looking at Amazon US? The European version of Hubitat comes with EU compliant transmitters for both Zigbee and ZWave but is only purchasable from their website. I’m in the UK and it cost me an extra £30 for customs taxes on top of their website cost

Yes I was. Think I need to give it another look and do some research to see what they offer in the rules engine

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It’s an updated version of Rule Machine that used to be on ST. The community website is like this one- friendly people that help where they can lol and it helps that there’s a few ex ST users :wink:

Nice. Think I am convinced.

Do you know if hue motion sensors can be used (just so that I know if I need to get new ones)?

Lol they can. And they are natively supported! I have 11 Hue Motion sensors. Plus 6 Hue bulbs and 3 Hue dimmer switches to name only a few connected devices. Only issue found is you need a different driver installed first to get Hue motion sensor paired to the hub and then switch to native driver

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How did you make it to work? I added the handler and set the motion sensor to pairing mode and the app to search for the new devices. No luck. The app says - No devices found and the sensor still blinking amber. Was hoping the Samsung solution will be better than Homey. As after the upgrade to the newest version loads of sensors don’t work any more.

You probably didn’t hold the setup button long enough

I did. It’s been added to Hue Bridge with the same procedure. I was holding the setup button until the led becomes green and then the device was added successfully to the bridge. With the same procedure to ST the LED keeps blinking amber and nothing happens. Is there a way to debug what’s going on?

I just paired a spare one i had. It took a couple of tries. I had to make sure to have the ST hub in pairing mode before holding the setup button, and release soon after the green light goes off.
(After that it still took about 1 minute to get discovered)